Swillis Gumpf Turner
Cousin Randy is a gliberal whigger butthole fag
Cousin Randy Wants To Deflect Suspicion From Hisself
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh…=1174#post1174
http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthre…988#post219988
http://cjcc-an.blogspot.com/2009/11/…suspicion.html
http://www.pastorlindstedt.org/blog/?p=763
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When he was using a new law to close a preliminary hearing for former Kanakuk Kamp director Pete Newman, Taney County Circuit Court Judge Tony Williams did not even check to see what the law said.
Williams told the Springfield News-Leader:
“They agreed to do it, so I never did actually get the book out” to review the new law, Williams said.
Told of the controversy generated by the attempt to close the hearing, he said: “My concern is children. If that is no one else’s concern, then that’s their problem.”
It is sad that it is so easy for Williams to make decisions that close the workings of the judicial system to the public and open the door to all kinds of possible mischief. What he should have considered are ways in which the children could have been protected without closing the courtroom doors to the public and to the press. These types of procedures are used on a regular basis in cases in which people are testifying who might be in danger if their identities are revealed, such as confidential informants. Why couldn’t the same methods be put to use in this case?
It turned out to be a moot point since Newman waived his preliminary hearing at the last moment.
The News-Leader story indicates the Taney County prosecutor never asked for the closed courtroom and offered other options. It was the judge who immediately suggested the public and press be removed. That kind of hair-trigger reaction should concern people.
No one wants children to suffer when testifying about evils that have been committed against them, but at the same time, when you start closing public court hearings you are starting a dangerous precedent. Once it has been done for a case like this, soon it will be done for all cases involving children, and then it will spread to other cases where people have been victimized and soon we will have no way of knowing what is going on in our courts.
Friday, November 20, 2009, Posted by Randy at 3:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Believes in ZOG korts
Anonymous said…
Courtrooms have always been public forums…and with good reason. To protect our system of justice and to hold the judge, attorneys, clients and witnesses accountable to the adherence of the rules and regulations of the courts. I understand the desire to protect children from possible public humiliation and scrutiny…but, also know the importance of not beginning the practice of closing courtrooms. The closing of courtrooms allows for the potential of so many violations of justice and is against everything this country was built upon. 5:30 AM |
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Originally Posted by Kathlee Byrd
http://crimesceneinvestigations.blogspot.com/
But those right make our justice system work. Judges are not above the law and Williams should have looked at the law before ruling on something he didn’t have knowledge of. 10:25 AM |
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Originally Posted by Loves crooked jewdges
Judge Williams was big enough to admit that he didn’t look at the book, okay!!!!!! He didn’t have to say that, but he was honest. He didn’t make that ruling to undermine the law! He was thinking about the victims!!!!
Pete waived his right to the hearing so shut up and stop trying to prove your point! I take it that this is a rich whigger who had one of his spawn ass-raped by the pervert to the spawn of the Rich & ‘Tarded. 11:23 AM |
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Originally Posted by Screw the Law!
What he did WAS within the law. He did the right thing. Wish more judges around this country would follow his lead. When they fail to protect these child-witnesses or give minimal sentences to their abusers, O’Rielly should expose them on his show.
When Mr. Peter’s sentencing comes around, the judge should give him the MAXIMUM PENALTY. 11:56 AM |
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Originally Posted by Whigger that thinks it knows what the law should be
This is yet another example of Randy not letting his ignorance of a subject stop him from expressing an opinion.
It sounds to me like the issue wasn’t that the Judge ignored the law, rather it was that no one objected. Judges only make rulings when there are controversies, in this case there was no opposition and thus nothing for him to decide. For example, hearsay is not allowed in a trial but if a lawyer does not raise the objection then a judge is not going to do it for him. It was the same way here, no one objected so there was no controversy for the judge to rule on. 12:51 PM |
Swillis Gumpf Turner sez:
For once this idiot Turner is correct. The judge violated the written law and if a judge can’t obey the law which gives him power over others, then why should anyone else obey the law when it is inconvenient?
The idiots on this blog seem to think that judicial lawlessness is OK as long as the results are with their prejudices. They never figure out until they are on the docket in a secret court that perhaps civilized behavior and rule of law is a good thing, but like criminals in the prisons everywhere that everyone is guilty except theysselfs.
Right now the lawyer and defendant are cowed, hoping that if they let the judge have his way that the judge will cut them some slack later. When the course of events arrive, the defendant and his probable later lawyer will then claim that the judge and prosecution went along with public hysteria whipped up by the media and move for an acquittal on all charges based upon being railroaded in a secret court without the right to confront uncoached witnesses and challenge the constitutionality of the new law misused to justify closing the courtroom.
The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the old Ohio v Roberts allowance of hearsay testimony and said in recent cases that the accused MUST be able to confront the witnesses against him in open court. The old Roberts-era ‘hearsay exceptions’ have been so scrapped that people who ‘testify’ against their killers using previous 911 calls can’t use that ‘hearsay’ evidence in court any more. The recent Missouri statutes are an effort to get around those Constitutional protections and will more than likely be challenged by a smart convictee with a lot of time on his hands and a law library available in prison.
Not that there is any need to use this new law 491.725 for the benefit of social workers in coaching children in court to reach the desired conclusion. This ‘law’ was designed to entrap working-class daddy for allegedly diddling his kids without there being any real material evidence present while welfare mommy was off at the casino so that the social workers could sell the children to rich yuppies and perverts. The alleged victims in this case are well able to confront the accused in open court as it seems that they are 10, 12, years old. So this new law shouldn’t be used and abused to do away with the established trial process of open courts and open witness testimony. The end result might be that a smart manipulator will ‘lose’ in court and end up having all the charges dismissed upon appeal by getting a new attorney claiming that his client didn’t get a fair trial thanks to a hysterical witch-hunt whupped up by the media and allowed by a corrupt weak judge to using an unconstitutional set of laws abused by the prosecution.
Best thing that can happen is for the prosecutor to file a motion that the current judge be replaced and the arraignment be redone and that the case be started over without using the latest legal ‘trick’ of RSMo 491.725.
Weak, stupid, arrogant judges, corrupt prosecutors, idiot press and degenerate people. So much for rule of law. Let civil war decide who wins, who loses, who lives, who dies in favor of the strong and unscrupulous able to think clearly.
5:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Savvy whigger ass-clown
Well Randy I guess you got Maddog’s vote.
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Swillis Gumpf Turner sez:
The Springfield paper had one of the drafters of this suspect legislation say the following:
“The purpose of that statute — and I think it’s clear on its face — it was never intended to close a courtroom,” Moore said. “It was intended to create certain safeguards so children could feel comfortable testifying … it’s designed to help them testify in open court.”
The purpose of that legislation was to allow social workers and divorce lawyers wanting to break up families by having the kiddies testilie that daddy diddled them while welfare mommy was gone to the casino would have those who got the children under their thumb easier ability to coach the nippers while obeying the requirements that they no longer can use a videotape of their production out of open court. These lawyers and social workers are upset that their handiwork will be destroyed by some ham-handed judge and idiot prosecutor trying to shoot fish in a barrel and by closing the courtroom destroy the entire case AND their legislative machinations and let an egregious pedophile run wild upon appeal.
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Originally Posted by Baby-Stealing DFS fuktard
Well 5:15 you were giving a pretty good arguement until you started talking about social workers selling kids, then you showed your real lack of intelligence. Your a moron.
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Swillis Gumpf Turner sez:
So I take it that you, 8:21 are some sort of social worker or enabler who is uncomfortable with the amount of hatred generated towards the current regime for their baby-stealing ways.
Them little white babies born to poor white trash are the only valuable thing that you white liberals really want. There isn’t much market for them little tar babies and wealthy couples will go to Eastern Europe or China and adopt some surplus female children that the Chinese don’t want. But what fetches the highest dollars are healthy white babies from poor white families.
So it is a simple thing for you social workers to make up some rules and take little white children and buy and sell them. Happens all the time. Occasionally some kids get sold to rich yuppies or homos and there is a big stink for a few years like happened in Washington State. But most of the time everyone knows what is happening and there is some sort of agreement not to speak of the matter because those the social workers victimize are poor and uneducated and powerless.
However, the possibilities of retalitory violence against social workers and the entire social system is enhanced because some people won’t forget or forgive what has been done to them in destroying their families under color of law for the personal profit of those in power.
In any case, this thread was about judicial overreaching in these alleged child molestation cases. The particular law was passed in order to give you social workers a thumb on the scales when the brainwashed and terrorized kiddies, suitably prepped and coached to claim that daddy or mommy molested them when there is no physical evidence and send daddy and mommy to prison for the rest of their lives.
Reading the Springfield newspaper, you find that the lawyers and social workers who created this law are all annoyed that this judge has so far over-reached in creating a secret judicial process that the law AS APPLIED will be ruled unconstitutional. Or it will create an atmosphere of hatred and suspicion for the minions of the System that they get scared to go outside among the general population.
As it is, this current alleged molester will doubtless get the entire ball of wax overturned because of this stupid and corrupt judge couldn’t be bothered in reading and obeying the law. Reversible error/prejudice has already occurred and the Defendant, with a new lawyer, should let all these errors pile up and then get the entire conviction overturned upon appeal, probably with prejudice. But for now it is the prosecution’s turn and the best thing to do is to let the prosecution shoot its wad and muddy up the water with prosecutorial misconduct.
As for Turner and you other baby-stealing liberals, I have no intention of arguing with your kind. Rather, like a remorseless prosecutor, I prefer to point out the issues and facts involved so that your kind can continue to do evil because you are evil and have an agenda of evil and make ‘points’ so that when it is your turn on the docket you can be judged as you did judge those who you accused when it is your victims’ time to judge you. A political rule of thumb, especially around here, is that conservatives are invariably stupid and liberals are invariably evil.
So if something was said that smote what little conscience you still had as a government ‘worker’ or regime enabler, then I can only hope that it made you sick enough to quit and repent or that you continue to do evil and thus damn yourself and your family when what is going around finally comes around to you and yours.
8:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Coonservantive Ass-clown 4 Baby-Stealing
This isn’t a liberal vs conservative issue for me. I’m politically conservative, my kids knew Pete Newman and thankfully weren’t victimized by him, and I can think of no good reason to have the courtroom closed to the public.
I’m sure it will be difficult and embarrassing for these teenaged guys to sit in a witness chair and describe what Pete did with them. I have no doubt, however, that they now fully understand that Pete, as the adult, manipulated and abused them. Pete should feel shame for his actions; his victims should not. Hopefully these young guys know that they’re heroes for telling their stories to their parents and the authorities so that Pete could be prevented from continuing these heinous acts. By the way, social workers don’t coach kids to lie in court about abuse. In cities with Children’s Advocacy Centers children who have made an outcry of abuse tell their stories to social workers in videotaped interviews. The social workers have been trained to ask questions which are phrased in such a way so as NOT to lead them to exaggerate or say something untrue. The authorities want truthful and accurate testimony so that it can’t be torn apart on the witness stand. The police and DA’s study these videotapes to build their cases. They get accurate info and the victim doesn’t have to tell his/her story over and over during the investigative process. Obvious a DFS/CPS baby-stealing bitch or an enabler of the same. I certainly hope that this Randy Newman did rape the spawn of this rich & powerfool whigger who loves to see the children of the poor stolen and their parents jailed on bogus child molestation cases. — Swillis Gumpf Turner Furthermore, the kids get to practice testifying in court ahead of time so that it is less stressful when the time comes. They know where the defendant will be sitting, what his lawyer may ask, etc. Judges: don’t close the courtroom! The brave victims are prepared to tell their stories, otherwise they would have never come forward in the first place! 3:20 PM |
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Swillis Gumpf Turner sez:
What goes around comes around said…
Saturday night there was some fat bitch from the Social Services on the TV whining about how there were over 400 children in Jasper County needing foster parents. Thus the lie that these social workers are not about removing white children from the homes of politically incorrect or poor white families for those chosen to raise these children to become good little government lovers is revealed for the grossly idiotic lie it is. Four hundred children removed from so many families in one county alone so that the baby-stealers got to in effect advertise for somebody to raise the children they stole like they are giving out so many Thanksgiving turkeys if you will only fill out a credit card application. And on this forum, rich liberal/conservative liars think that they can pull the wool over us all when there is such a wrenching in the social fabric from these policies.
Let me tell you what it seems like to the discerning:
None of these 400 childrens’ parents have the money to send their children to some ‘Christian camp’ where they can live in the equivalent of gated-community kiddie care. The lying fools on this forum have no problem with the children of poor white people getting put in foster care where they are abused and molested in the equivalent of human puppy mills for the foster check or adopted by rich yuppies or perverts who the police dare not arrest. And no, they have no problem with homosexual social workers and school teachers for the children of the poor and middle class. Why homosexuality isn’t an abomination but rather a legally protected lifestyle to be protected by ‘hate-crime’ laws.
But there comes a disconnect in such ‘thinking’ when they farm out their own spawn to some expensive ‘Christian camp’ where their little bi-curious nippers learn the joys of rump-ranging, fudge-packing, and wiener-munching, not from other little twelve year old gaywads but from predatory homosexuals typically churning out more homos just like them.
And, it goes to show that God has a sense of humor when the very laws designed by the rich and powerful in order to steal, buy and sell the children of the poor in order by convict their daddies and mommies of child molestation absent forensic evidence comes back to bite them by these laws then being openly abused in order to railroad a genuine sexual predator who turns the spawn of these rich ‘Christians’ into sexual, as well as social predators and parasites. All of which goes to show that in a decaying plutocracy that the laws are routinely made by the rich and powerful in order to be enforced selectively against the poor and weak.
Wouldn’t it be ever so just if someone who lost their children to the state was to get past the jury-tampering phase and vote “Not Guilty” because in a world full of evil people the misery and despair of broken-up destroyed families should be democratized?
Perhaps Pete Newman, pervert pedophile of the spawn of the rich and powerful, is nothing more than an unlikely agent of God’s Justice.
4:47 AM
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Well, Cousin Randy deleted the above comment. Cousin Randy loves these laws designed by the social workers and lawyers in order to convict the parents of poor and middle-class children of bogus child molestation cases and put the White children being raised White into foster care and the whigger factory so that pervert skrule teachers like Cousin Randy can get to them.
But when these laws are abused in order to close the kortroom when the sexual predators of the spawn of the rich & whiggroid can be railroaded, Turner is caught in a quandry. What happens if Turner gets caught?
The rich gliberal whigger shitheads have no problem with child molestation of the children of the white working poor but have a cow when the perverts teach their bi-curious whigger spawn the ‘joys’ of faggot sex. Then when it hits them, they go ballistic.
Well, part of me hopes that the jew pervert gets away with sodomizing and turning into faggots the spawn of these jewdayo-whigger rich ass-clowns. What goes around comes around.
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