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    2013 CofCC Conference Takeaways


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    I’m going to have a lot to say about this. Stay tuned.

    1.) Jews – I saw no evidence that the CofCC has been hijacked by Jews.

    Jews were discussed by the speakers on at least four or five different occasions. I’ve only been to one other CofCC conference, but there seemed to be more discussion of Jews at the 2013 national conference, not less.

    Of all the problems that plague the White Nationalist movement, a lack of discussion about Jews is not one of them.

    2.) Jewish Sabotage – In light of what happened to mainstream conservatism, White Nationalists have legitimate fears of Jewish sabotage.

    I can’t really think of any White Nationalist groups – the National Alliance being an obvious example – that have succumbed to this problem though. The closest thing that comes to mind would be the time Ian Jobling and friends attempted to purge Amren of anti-Semites, but Jobling ended up resigning and taking his supporters with him, and ultimately repudiating racialism altogether.

    3.) Apathy and Resignation – The real problem facing White Nationalism is the apathy and resignation of its own supporters.

    The people who share our racial and cultural views are not organized in the real world. Without an organized resistance in the real world, White Nationalists will always be powerless and will remain bystanders rather than actors in their own racial dispossesion.

    At the 2012 League of the South conference, someone made the remark that a chief without Indians can’t accomplish jack. A gentleman from North Carolina made the same point at the 2013 CofCC conference and that remains true across the entire Far Right.

    Golden Dawn’s supporters are on the streets. They are not electrons flying around the internet. I left with the impression that someone like Matt Heimbach or Kyle Rogers could accomplish a lot more with our help.

    What’s the old saying? It is easy to snap one twig or to hammer down one deviant nail, but it is much harder to snap a bunch of organized twigs. Well, there is no getting around the fact that nothing is ever going to change until there is an organized resistance on the streets in the real world.

    While Jewish subversion is a legitimate concern, the far greater problem is that so few White Nationalists are willing to show up or do much of anything other than vent on the internet.

    4.) Action vs. Words – Ideas matter.

    The case of Matt Heimbach shows that ideas followed up by action is even more effective. Too often we are content to inform people while neglecting the moral qualities that inspire White people to stand up for themselves.

    Amren has been educating the public about racial differences for twenty years. If it wasn’t for men like Jared Taylor, we wouldn’t be reaching men like Matt Heimbach, but education alone isn’t sufficient to reverse our decline.

    As Taylor himself pointed out, it is harder for someone like James Watson, Jason Richwine, or John Derbyshire to break racial etiquette than it was twenty years ago. It is harder because White people have become less willing to stand up for themselves in the real world in the twenty years that have passed since Amren was founded or in the decade that has passed since William Pierce died.

    For every Matt Heimbach that stands up, there must be a thousand people who are educated, who know the depth of the crisis we are facing, but who do nothing in the real world about it. If those people would simply act on their own beliefs like Heimbach, we would have a Golden Dawn in this country.

    5.) White Power – The Council’s own history shows that organized White Power is sufficient to squash Jewish power. In the 1950s and 1960s, Jews were intimidated in the South into joining the Council, but internal sabotage by Jews isn’t why the segregationists were ultimately defeated.

    The Council, the Klan, the Wallace campaigns and other types of organized White resistance, mainstream or vanguard, failed due to insufficient support outside of the Deep South. It wasn’t enough to control Selma or Mississippi when a federal judge on a whim could issue a desegregation order.

    It was possible to win by working within the system … up to the point where cultural demography was decisive.

    6.) Hardcore Nucleus – My friend Jim Giles used to say that he wanted to assemble a hardcore nucleus.

    I can see the “hardcore nucleus” taking shape within the Council and the League and playing a greater role within these organizations over time. It doesn’t matter who is the leader. What matters is gathering in the real world on a regular basis, growing the size of the nucleus, and engaging in action that strengthens the organized resistance.

    As I said above, a Caesar can’t do anything without legions. Until there are legions, there isn’t going to be any march on Washington. Instead, there will just be more navel gazing essays and annual fundraisers.

    7.) Courage In Numbers – How do we get White people to be more courageous?

    If you look at Greece, you can see what White people will do in the real world when there are other White people around backing them up. The same principle is on display outside of the political sphere. Men are bolder and more aggressive in larger numbers.

    That’s why the antifa believe in invading the spaces of White Nationalists. They want to snuff out the flame before the stick of dynamite can explode.

    8.) Homogeneity – Ten years of observation and experience and the death of three White Republics (America until 1861, the Confederacy, and the Jim Crow South) at the hands of the same people has convinced me that we can’t hope for any effective action on the basis of an abstract concept of whiteness.

    White people are very heterogeneous and individualistic and are easily derailed from working together to accomplish any common purpose. In order to save White people, we will have to build stronger organizations like the Europeans around ethnic, cultural, and religious affinities so that we don’t get sidetracked by other issues.

    In the South, we can use our relative ethnic, cultural, and religious homogeneity to build our hardcore nucleus, and to push outside into the public sphere.

    9.) Coherent Vision – Heimbach identified the lack of a coherent vision as one of the key problems facing the movement.

    What’s the goal? Is the goal to “Take Back America” through voting Republican for Northern conservatism? Is the goal to create a White ethnostate? If so, where? How? This is all incredibly vague. His own suggestion was to emulate Franco’s triumph over the Spanish communists and anarchists.

    The closest American parallel would be the White Line in Mississippi and the Red Shirts and the White Man’s Revolution of 1876 in South Carolina.

    10.) Anonymity – White people will be hammered into a unit by showing up in real life and putting their ass on the line with other White people to advance a common purpose, not by filling up MySQL databases in search of “the philosophy.”

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    Default Chrrrrrrr, chrrrrrrrrr, chrrrrrrrrr, Hunter

    Chrrrrrrr, chrrrrrrrrr, chrrrrrrrrr, Hunter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter Wallace
    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...nce-takeaways/

    “The people who share our racial and cultural views are not organized in the real world. Without an organized resistance in the real world, White Nationalists will always be powerless, and will remain bystanders to their own racial dispossession.”
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    The point. Well said, Hunter. Chrrrrrrr, chrrrrrrrrr, chrrrrrrrrr.

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    Default One of the problems with WNism is there is no agreed upon frame, principles, definitions or common understanding of what WNism is

    One of the problems with WNism is there is no agreed upon frame, principles, definitions or common understanding of what WNism is


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    One of the problems with WNism is there is no agreed upon frame, principles, definitions or common understanding of what WNism is. Everyone seems to have a slightly different understanding of it. Personally, when thinking about conflict with other groups, the only groups I care about opposing and view as the core enemies are other whites and Jews. They’re the ones standing in the way.
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    Default You're looking good Hunter. Mind if me and Carolyn Yenta cum over to borrow a tablespoon of spunk? . . . Each?

    You're looking good Hunter. Mind if me and Carolyn Yenta cum over to borrow a tablespoon of spunk? . . . Each?


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    Great video! You guys all look and sound happy and like ya had a good time . . . . . all good for others to see.

    **Hunter, genuine congratulations on your getting healthy. It’s fantastic to see you now compared to where you were at a while back. It also has the added bonus of driving your detractors crazy, haha . . . . Bravo!

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    You Nazis may be insane . . . .
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    Default I think we are going to have to figure out a way to draw attention to ourselves.

    I think we are going to have to figure out a way to draw attention to ourselves.


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    1.) If we have grown the size of our “hardcore nucleus” by next year, then we are doing our jobs.

    2.) Ideally, we would have a small group of people in each Southern state, which would be a foundation to build on, and they would meet up on a regular basis.

    3.) I think we are going to have to figure out a way to draw attention to ourselves. It is too easy to isolate and ignore us and bottle us up on the internet. We are going to have to break out of this cycle.

    4.) The major problem we have now is our inability to channel all the people who have been educated for the last twenty years into effective action in the real world.

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    Default We are fairly normal people who have been radicalized. It is much easier for us to talk to our own people.

    We are fairly normal people who have been radicalized. It is much easier for us to talk to our own people.


    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...omment-1748574
    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=8724#post8724


    A “vanguard” in the classical sense of the term is fine. That’s not what it means in American WN though. I don’t think any of us are like “the vanguard” in the sense of being, say, an “avant garde” which is deeply antagonistic to our own people.

    Instead, people like Scott Terry, Matt Heimbach, Palmetto Patriot, myself and others strongly identify with our own people, and our views are strongly shaped by our own cultural inheritance, and we are conservative in the sense that we admire and want to preserve that legacy.

    We are fairly normal people who have been radicalized. It is much easier for us to talk to our own people.

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    Default Nothing succeeds like excess in secesh.

    Nothing succeeds like excess in secesh.


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    Looking at the above youtube video I am struck at how well the young up-and-comers seem to play well with each other far better than those of us old bulls who simply cannot work or play well with each other unless our followership has little or no overlap. However, give it another few years and series of betrayals and back-bitings and we shall see how well and if that lasts.

    When one goes to a convention, one pretty much always gets a euphoric head rush/high from being around your own kind, even when, like in July 2001 when I went to the Reform Party National Convention in Nashville, you expect to get ambushed -- and do -- and in turn get to lay ambushes for your political enemies in the bowel Movement. Since both the predators and the prey are supposedly one of you, you feel elated to be amongst those who at least profess to be much like you, unlike the unrelenting hostility of living amongst the typpycull ZOGling whigger and mamzer ass-clowns.


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    And Hunter, you do look slim and trim and not like "Grinnie the Pooh" as the gut-sick guido kikenweasel with Crohns/jew ass-GAIDS said, accurately and uncharitably, a few years ago. In fact, you looked like "The Governor" in Season Three of The Walking Dead, albeit without the eye-patch from an unfortunate encounter with a niggress. And yes, everyone else noticed. Perhaps Carolyn "Yenta" Yeager and Cora McGuire will drop by to borrow a tablespoon of spunk from you sometime soon.

    But let's understand reality: Convention time isn't the same as Real-Life Time amongst the ZOGling whigger and mamzer ass-clown herd animals. While indeed a bit of leaven might leaven a loaf of bread, it does nothing for a big vat of shit, which is AmurriKwa. The future of ZOG lies not in restoring ZOG/Babylon the Third and Final back to Evil Empire Lite, but in preparing for Civil War II. There is no restoring ZOG, but there is a certain inevitability in working with the flow of History decaying every mighty Evil Empire. Those who seek to build "unity" will fail, while those who aid and abet "Balkanization" will succeed -- in secession. Nothing succeeds like excess in secesh.

    I think that you and your friends have an advantage with "Southern Nationalism" as a variant of "White Nationalism." There isn't a single normal white Alabaman, Carolinian, or Mississippian who isn't positively aching for a rematch of Civil War I. I'm reminded of a Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon in which the Southron insists on calling the late unpleasantness the "War Between the States" up until the narrator notes that the South seems to be winning. In which case the "Colonel" says, "In that case, you may call it the Civil War."

    I think that the organizers should have made the Conference live web streaming and made a DVD available for subscribers. Altogether the first consideration of the meetings isn't in propaganda like making a movie of a political meeting like the Nazis did in Triumph of the Will. Gordon Baum is no Adolf Hitler and James Edwards no Leni Riefenstahl. I am struck by how the six of you figured out how to do a youtube video without an excellent camera, with it fading in and out between darkness and light, focused and not focused. You all made something on the fly and got it out on apparently the first take. Well done. Why couldn't the old farts who set up the conference do as much? When I went down to the Reform Party National Convention in Nashville in July 2001 with an old VCR video camera I bought ten videotapes at a store for two dollars each in order to keep the moment recorded even though C-SPAN was there as well. Why couldn't the old feebs running the conference do as much as well?

    Secondly, the price of admission seems to be you having a blog, Hunter. Your weakness is in starting things and not finishing them, in making retirements and then re-appearing when you need another fix of Movement politics. As Harold Covington noted, hffing fumes from our bowel Movement are far more addictive than crack cocaine or meth.

    Your flagship is your Occidental Dissent blog. However, you have a v-bulletin 3.7.2 forum that you keep on bringing up and taking down. Recently this VNNF/TGMNNF/GFRTCNNF knockoff sprung up and even though they bought a v-bulletin v4.2.x license, like phorafags/feebs and VNNF and my own forum, they all default to using v3.8.7, the last version of v-bulletin 3.8.x. Even $permFart uses v.3.8.7. What is used for video is nothing other than BB code for jewtube, and in the case of the new WhiggerNations.com is some podblanc BB code provided by Corn Cobb. What, if anything prevents you from using BB code to bring up jewtube video, vimeo video, and other worked-out BB code compatible with your v-bulletin v. 3.7.2? Nothing really. You make a piss-pore Farmer of Revolution in that you sow some seeds, but neglect the sproutings. If you cannot farm your forum efficiently, then make Kane or myself Admin for a week and we'll get the database saved and the permissions updated and the video BB code up and then shut down the new registrations. Meanwhile, you get into the cpanel and make an entire backup of everything every few weeks.

    Your adversaries are ZOGlings and ZOGbots. Not other secessionists be they Harold Covington or New England secessionists, as everyone wants to escape the prison house of Nationalities. So the goal of any successful Revolutionary isn't to create any movement or worry too much about what replaces the Mighty Evil Empire. Rather, you work on "destructive criticism" to where the Evil Empire cannot do anything right, how it needs to be destroyed and the White People free to do as they please. You are out to preach destruction, not restoration, secession and not unity.

    You had a good conference, Hunter. And you had fun and a good time. And that is good. But I'm suggesting that the Zombie ZOGling whigger and mamzer ass-clown Apocrapolypse means that the politically adept follow The Governor's facade of democracy while pursuing a hard line more than Rick Grimes' half-assed dithering half-growed possum-in-the-middle-of-the-road Ricktatorsheep that still lets things get out of control.


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