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    Default Containing Chronic Wasting Disease

    Containing Chronic Wasting Disease

    Missouri to increase chronic wasting disease surveillance in six Southwest Missouri counties

    88 cases of disease verified in northern Arkansas since February



    Missouri is trying to keep these supposedly healthy free-range deer
    from getting a fatal disease which will destroy their brain

    The Missouri Department of Conservation will increase surveillance for chronic wasting disease in six Southwest Missouri counties, given that 88 cases have been found so far this year in deer and elk in four northern Arkansas counties.

    MDC, which made the announcement last week, said the targeted counties are all within a 50-mile area of the positive Arkansas tests.

    So far, the disease has been found in four counties in Arkansas — Newton, Madison, Pope and Boone, but more testing is being done in that state, according to Keith Stephens, chief of communication for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission.

    “We expect to find others, but we don’t have anything confirmed yet,” he told the Globe last week.

    The Missouri counties that will be the focus of the surveillance area are Barry, Christian, Douglas, Ozark, Stone and Taney.

    Arkansas officials confirmed their first positive test in February on an elk that was killed near Pruitt along the Buffalo National River in October. It was the first positive test for CWD in Arkansas. Since then, positive tests also have been confirmed on three other elk and 84 white-tailed deer, said Stephens.

    This spring, MDC announced it had increased efforts in parts of southern Missouri to collect samples from sick and road-killed deer, but none of those have been positive. According to Tim Russell, MDC wildlife regional supervisor for the southwest corner of the state, Missouri has confirmed 27 cases of CWD — all in deer — since it began testing for the disease throughout the state in 2002.

    The first positive test was in 2010. Those cases were found in counties in the northeast, central and east-central portions of the state. Missouri has tested more than 51,000 deer so far.

    CWD is a a neurological disease that infects only deer and other members of the cervid family by causing degeneration of brain tissue, according to authorities with both states.

    When asked if Arkansas has identified a cause or a source, Stephens said last week, “We don’t have a ground zero.”

    “We are going to try to contain it,” he said. “This is more important to us right now.”

    Neither Missouri nor Arkansas allow the importation of pen-raised deer.

    Stephens asked anyone who sees a deer acting strangely — separate from the herd, drinking a lot of water, foaming at the mouth or excess salivation — to contact authorities.

    Other signs of the disease could be emaciation, lack of coordination or even paralysis, according to Russell.

    MDC asks anyone who sees a deer portraying signs of illness or abnormal behavior to call their local MDC office or contact the county’s conservation agent. The more details callers can provide (the animal’s sex, location, picture of video images, etc.), the better the deer can be located and the situation assessed.

    While there is no evidence that CWD may infect humans, both states advise hunters to avoid eating animals that have the disease.

    The AGFC also has scheduled 11 public meetings throughout the state Tuesday through Thursday to discuss chronic wasting disease and regulations being proposed in an effort to manage the disease.

    The nearest of those to Southwest Missouri will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday at the Pauline Whitaker Animal Science Center, 1335 West Knapp Ave., at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, Arkansas.

    More CWD information can be obtained by calling MDC’s Southwest Regional Office in Springfield. Information on CWD can also be found at mdc.mo. gov.

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    Default Prion Poisoning . . . Anything can be used as a weapon

    Prion Poisoning . . .

    . . . Anything can be used as a weapon . . .


    Some time ago I posted an Idea called "Prion Poison Prevention" (see link), because it seemed to me that prions pose a unique threat that needed to be seriously addressed. Today it occurred to me that because prions exist and are bad, misuse of them is likely to be inevitable. So I am posting this more for the criminal investigation squads, than for the criminals. (There may also be a better place here on the HalfBakery for it, but I don't know where yet.)

    If you don't already know, prions are an unusual brain protein that can exist in at least two different shapes. Since the functioning of a protein depends a great deal on its shape, it happens that prions of one shape are not usefully functional. However, that particular shape is still functional in a horrible way: it can cause a properly-shaped and functional prion to become distorted into the useless shape! When this happens for a significant time in the brain, literal holes develop in brain tissue and mental functions diminish until death occurs. There is no cure.

    The next bad thing about malformed prions is that they are biologically pretty stable. If an animal has died from bad prions, and it is processed to feed other animals (including humans), then those prions can survive both cooking and digestion, AND enter the bloodstream and cross the blood-brain barrier and begin their ugly task of converting good prions into bad.

    Next, prion diseases tend to work slowly. It can be months after eating some bad prions that they start to have a significant effect. Which brings us to the Idea that prions might make a pretty good murder weapon. Put some in someone's salad, and they won't be detectable to the taste, and they are not poisonous in any ordinary sense, and they are not biologically active like bacteria or even viruses, AND the victim will have no idea how the brain-degenerator was acquired. What can the cops do?

    I don't know! Obviously we need Prion Poison Prevention more badly than ever!

    — Vernon, Jul 26 2005




    The shape of prions, formed by the protein folding and "mutating", makes it resistant to efforts to destroy the prion. I was wonering whether there were enzymes that could unfold the folded protein to either return it to it's normal state or allow it to be destroyed.

    I've also read that a prion infecting one species can't easily be introduced into another species, but when it is, it gets more easily transferred in the new species in time.

    Not that it has any real relevance to this, I just think it's interesting.

    — pooduck, Jul 26 2005




    What exactly is the idea...are you suggesting using prions as a weapon?
    — ldischler, Jul 26 2005



    [ldischler], this is something of a dilemma. I am not suggesting USING prions as weapons; I am suggesting that they ARE potential weapons and that inevitably somebody will use them as such. I don't want to encourage that use, even though I know that just by mentioning it somebody will think it worth trying... What I really want here is credit for giving the cops a chance to think of the Idea, "Hmmm, maybe this brain-deterioriation case is actually a homicide."
    — Vernon, Jul 26 2005




    Vernon - I think you've made a very good point.

    However, I'm not sure that prions would make a good murder weapon. I suspect the transmission rate is very low for non- human prion (most meat-eaters in the UK probably ate a fair dose of bovine PrPsc in their time, but fatalities so far are very very few), and the latency time is huge. So, if you lace someone's food with it, you have a very small chance of killing them in several years' time (if they don't happen to have the resistant genotype).

    There's also the question of how you get hold of large enough amounts of PrPsc to raise the odds of success. You'd need infected livestock and, preferably, a half-decent kitchen- lab to enrich the prions. People are working on synthesising PrPsc (for example, from normal PrPc by chemical modification, or by genetically modifying PrP to mis-fold spontaneously), but I don't think anyone has yet demonstrated infectivity this way (unless it's quite recent).

    You might get a higher chance of transmission with human PrPsc, but getting hold of this would be even tougher.

    The other possible use would be as a terrorist weapon (assuming that terrorists would have more resources to produce PrPsc, would be prepared to infect only a small random percentage of a target population, and are happy to wait several years). It would probably be easier to lace food with PrPsc than with most other, more easily-detected toxins or pathogens.

    However, even as a bioterrorism agent, prions are less than ideal. They lack the immediate impact of a bomb, which can kill as many people far more easily, and which elicits a much greater response than the announcement that "of the 14 vCJD deaths this year, it is estimated that between 1 and 4 could be attributed to the adulteration of foodstuffs by XYZ seven years ago."

    So, it is a great piece of thinking (and, no doubt, someone somewhere will be murdered in this way, sometime), but I suspect that many, many more people will be murdered in other 'untraceable' ways instead.
    — Basepair, Jul 26 2005




    In this era of genetic engineering, we could TODAY modify bacteria to churn out lots of prion protein.//
    We could indeed, and several people of my acquaintance do this routinely (though not for malicious purposes). However, in-vitro templating leading to large amounts of infectious material has not yet (though I may be out of date here) been demonstrated. (I'll ask my wife - her field.) But, I agree, if it's not yet possible then it soon will be. (It is probably more efficient to engineer in amino-acid subsitutions which lead to spontaneous mis-folding; but again, I don't think this has been done successfully yet to create an infectious protein).

    But then you're looking at having a decent molecular biology set-up (more so than if you're just purifying PrPsc from animal remains). I'm not saying it's not possible, just that I can't imagine many scenarios where someone would choose this as a murder weapon.

    If you want a simpler way to *possibly* kill someone after a long time, with little risk of being caught, just impregnate their pillow with a radioisotope (stealable from any decent lab) and hope they develop a brain tumour, then remove the pillow. No residual evidence, and the cause of death is probably common enough to avoid suspicion.

    Or MRSA or some of the worse (but not implausibly uncommon) viruses.

    — Basepair, Jul 27 2005

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    Default Hunters advised to test deer for CWD -- Arkansas officials reports 104 positive tests

    Hunters advised to test deer for CWD

    Arkansas officials reports 104 positive tests

    By Andy Ostmeyer aostmeyer@joplinglobe.com
    Updated Wed Sep 14, 2016, Pages A1, A8

    http://www.joplinglobe.com/news/loca...02cc7f0de.html Page A1

    Deer hunters in seven Missouri counties are being advised to test animals they harvest this fall for chronic wasting disease.

    The recommendation follows positive tests for CWD in 104 deer and elk harvested in five counties in northern Arkansas, including two counties along the state line.

    The Missouri Department of Conservation announced this spring that it was increasing surveillance for CWD in six Southwest Missouri counties — Barry, Christian, Douglas, Ozark, Stone and Taney — given the Arkansas outbreak. This week, it added McDonald County to that list.

    Archery season for deer opens in Missouri on Sept. 15.

    Arkansas officials confirmed their first positive CWD test in February in a female elk that was killed near Pruitt the previous October. Since then, positive tests also have been confirmed for four other elk and 99 deer in that area. According to the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, CWD has been found in nearly one-quarter of the harvested deer tested in Newton[/URL] and Boone counties in Arkansas — 62 of 266.

    The closest positive test to Missouri in those five counties was found in eastern Carroll County, about 15 miles from the Missouri border.

    CWD is a disease that infects deer and other members of the cervid family — elk and moose — and causes degeneration of brain tissue, according to authorities with both states.

    Arkansas officials have set up a special management zone in and around those five counties with additional regulations to try to limit the spread of the disease, said Keith Stephens, spokesman for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission. Those regulations include restrictions on the importation or transportation of deer into and out of the zone.

    "We are trying to contain it in that area," Stephens said.

    The commission also has banned statewide the use of natural scents or lures that contain deer urine or other biological fluids that can carry the prion, a protein, that is believed to be the infectious agent.

    "People mostly want to know if it is OK to eat the meat," Stephens said. "We try to tell people there has never been a case where it has transferred to a human."

    The Arkansas Department of Health, citing the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization, and the Missouri Department of Conservation have also said there is no evidence the disease can spread to humans.

    Nevertheless, Stephens said wildlife and health experts advise people not to eat any deer that appears sick or tests positive for the disease.

    To date, no cases of CWD have been found in southern Missouri. However, according to Francis Skalicky, Department of Conservation outreach and education specialist in Springfield, Missouri, has confirmed 33 cases of CWD — all in deer — since it began testing for the disease throughout the state in 2002. The first positive test in Missouri was in 2010. Those cases were found in counties in the northeast, central and east-central portions of the state. Missouri has tested more than 51,000 deer so far, Skalicky said.

    Missouri Department of Conservation officials want hunters to test any deer killed in those seven counties this fall.

    "We are encouraging hunters to have samples taken from them because of the proximity to the Arkansas area," he added.

    Beginning next week and continuing through Jan. 15, hunters in those seven counties are advised to take harvested deer to either the department's Ozark Regional Office in West Plains or the Southwest Regional Office in Springfield. Testing will be available during normal business hours, usually 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday. Testing is free for hunters, and the department will make results available to participating hunters as they become available.

    Hunters also can take their deer to the following locations in Barry and McDonald counties to be sampled for CWD testing.

    • Cassville: Visions of Wildlife Taxidermy Studio, 102 Laray St., 417-846-6249.

    • Exeter: Scott’s Taxidermy, 5270 Farm Road 2190, 417-835-2053.

    • Monett: Reflections Taxidermy, 5045 Farm Road 2030, 417-235-8848.

    • Pineville: Painted Dreams Farm Taxidermy, 3099 Goff Ridge Road, 417-435-2025.

    Department of Conservation staff will also collect tissue samples from select meat processors during the opening weekend of the modern firearms deer season.

    Both states also are asking people to report deer that appear sick to local conservation agents. Some unusual signs are lack of coordination, paralysis, excessive salivation, unusual behavior and emaciation.


    Arkansas hunters also are being asked to take precautions when field dressing deer, including wearing latex or rubber gloves, to not cut through bone and avoid cutting the brain or spinal cord.

    "Little is known about whether infected cervid parts pose a risk to the environment; researchers have discovered that prions readily adhere to various elements in the soil and remain infectious for many years," according to Arkansas Department of Health guidelines. "Therefore, it is recommended that bones and other parts of the carcass of an animal suspected or known to have CWD be double bagged in strong garbage bags and disposed of at a landfill with an approved dead animal disposal area."


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    Default A Disease You Need to Learn About

    A Disease You Need to Learn About


    These are elk along the buffalo river in Arkansas. Tested animals from
    this herd have been found to have chronic wasting disease.


    The public is being misled about chronic wasting disease in deer. If you eat deer meat, you need to know that several Missourians HAVE BEEN diagnosed with the disease, known as Jakob-Kruetzfeldt disease. It is a horrible disease for humans to deal with and you can learn all about it on the internet. It has been a disease dealt with in England for more than 30 years because of “Mad Cow” disease-- another name for it. In the U.S. it exists in deer and elk and goats and is known as “Mad Deer” disease.

    In the fall issue of my magazine, the Lightnin’ Ridge Journal, on the newsstands in about a week, there is a letter from a Texas doctor you should read, concerning this horrible disease. I am not suggesting that you buy the magazine. You can just find it and read the doctor’s letter on page 64 without buying it. It won’t take long.


    This is that sick buck found last fall in Polk County.
    Stumbling and staggering, he went down and then couldn't stand.


    Hunters in Missouri have been grossly misinformed about this disease, spreading to new counties each year. It is likely that it exists to some degree in the Ozarks right now, and there is no holding it back. In the Ozarks of north Arkansas it has been found in whitetail deer and elk in large numbers. I believe a Polk county landowner found a deer on his place with chronic wasting disease.He made several calls to the MDC asking them to come and check the sick deer, but no one would come.

    I think that state agency is looking at this disease too much in the economic line. They really stress what it will do to the state’s economy to lose deer hunters. They say less about what it will cost them in deer tag sales. What they need to talk about, and do not, is what the disease can do to those of us who eat deer meat.

    My daughter, a doctor for more than fifteen years now, has not been willing to say much to me about it when I question her, because there is so much not yet known. She did tell me that she saw a case of it in a patient at Columbia Missouri when she was finishing her doctorate at the University of Missouri. A disease created by something known as a ‘prion’, Jakob-Kruetzfeldt destroys the brain, and it is complicated to diagnose. The bodies of those known to have died from it are not taken to a coroner, but immediately cremated, as apparently instructed by the Center of Disease Control.

    There is no doubt it could have been stopped in our state fifteen years ago, if the raising of penned deer had been outlawed. That is what Colorado did when they first learned of the disease… they shut down all operations buying and raising elk and deer to be used as hunted trophies. And to my knowledge,
    no wild elk or deer tested for ‘mad deer’ disease to date have
    tested positive in that state.

    Why didn’t Missouri do that? The answer is money!!! It was becoming a big business. North Missouri deer pen operators were spending thousands and thousands on deer purchase in Ohio and Michigan, brought into our state without testing. And some of those Amish deer pen operations were making tremendous profits they had never seen in farming or ranching, tens of thousands of dollars off the sale of just one buck. The disease then started to occur in wild deer around those north Missouri operations.

    I am going to continue to eat deer meat only when it is a deer I have killed. The prions that cause the disease are supposedly not found in blood, but in spinal fluid, and in the brain. If you do not cut the spine or brain in anyway, it may be that you could eat an infected deer and not contract the disease. But who knows for sure? No one! The doctor who wrote the article on page 64 of my magazine says that people have been known to get Jakob-Kruetzfeldt disease from eating meat. Perhaps that was because the meat was tainted by spinal fluid.

    As for me, I will heart-shoot any deer I hunt and remove the meat from the bone without ever cutting a bone. I worry about the bone marrow as well as the spinal fluid. If you are a deer hunter, I would suggest you do the same. I process all my deer meat, and have never taken it to a processor. There is a worry that meat processors might accidentally get your meat mixed up with someone else’s. There is no problem if you are very familiar with your meat processor and confident that won’t happen.

    That ridiculous “seven-point-or-better” regulation the Missouri Department of Conservation installed in two-thirds of the state was never biologically sound, never achievable for the majority of deer hunters not using binoculars from a stationary stand. It was done to bring in more money from out of state hunters who were looking for trophies, and would pay large sums to buy a non-resident tag. A few conservation agents said they never had enforced it and never would.

    Now that regulation has been ditched in nineteen counties where it is feared the disease exists. It needs to be repealed everywhere, but the common sense in doing it escapes the decision makers who still think that a fork-horn will always become an 8 or 10 point trophy in just a year or so. It doesn’t work that way, and never has. Antlers don’t always progress to trophy size by letting them grow. Many factors can make a spindly six-point rack remain that way throughout the buck’s life.

    My decision on whether to take a deer on my place will be whether or not he appears healthy and whether or not I can make steaks, stew meat, hamburger and jerky from the meat. I have enough big sets of antlers laying around for the squirrels to chew on, I don’t need any more. Any hunter who is out there trying to bag a trophy set of antlers again and again, needs to examine what makes him think that way.

    Human greed created Jakob-Kruetzveldt disease. They created it in England by feeding meat by-products to cattle, a creature God created to eat grass and grain… not meat. Too often, the greedy don’t go along so well with God’s ideas. Their idea was to put more weight on the cow, by making it a meat eater. The added weight would mean more beef and more money. Instead, it meant a horrible disease for the cattle, and a horrible death for humans who were infected by eating the beef. In England there were many, many deaths in humans.

    In the deer and elk pens, similar meat and bone by-products were mixed into the deer feed to try to make bigger antlers and more money from them. Good idea wasn’t it? No one knows where it is going to end, or how bad it might get. When the MDC people talk about controlling chronic wasting disease or keeping it limited, they are doing a disservice to those who believe them. It is not just limited to that 19 county area now, and in the Ozarks, it will move north from Arkansas soon if it isn’t already here.

    Notice that our state conservation department never mentions the disease spreading to humans, but it needs to be talked about, because several known cases have occurred in Missouri. Talking to their relatives, I learned that in at least three of those deaths, venison was a big part of the diet. I’ll hunt deer this fall once again, and hope I feel comfortable eating venison for a few years to come. But I am sure that in time, deer hunting will just be too much of an uncertainty for many.


    This is one of the deer pens operated by Amish
    people in Randolph County. Does are crowded
    into a small area, to be bred by trophy bucks in
    hopes of creating superior fawns to grow big antlers,
    sold and shot. This Amish farmer told me he had
    just bought a doe in Ohio for 26 thousand dollars.


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    Default Can CWD jump to humans? Concerns keep rising

    Can CWD jump to humans? Concerns keep rising


    Amid renewed concern about whether chronic wasting disease can jump from deer to people, a fatal human brain condition in the same family is showing up more often in Wisconsin and nationally.

    It's happening as state testing for the deer disease is down, and hunters routinely opt not to test deer killed in affected zones.

    In 2002, the year CWD was discovered in Wisconsin, six cases of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease were recorded, according to the state Department of Health Services. In two of the last four years, 13 cases have been recorded. That's a 117% increase.

    Nationally, there also has been an increase in cases of Creutzfeldt-Jakob. In 2002, there were 260 cases, compared with 481 in 2015, an 85% increase, according to data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Creutzfeldt-Jakob is closely related to the form of mad cow disease that infected people, primarily in Great Britain, in the late 1990s and early 2000s, after they ate beef from infected cows. Indeed, human mad cow disease is known as variant-Creutzfeldt-Jakob. Both diseases attack the brain, and death usually occurs within a year.

    The increase in Wisconsin comes as chronic wasting disease — which, like Creutzfeldt-Jakob, is caused by infectious agents known as prions — continues to spread among deer. Like its human counterparts, CWD also attacks the brain and is always fatal.

    In Wisconsin, it appeared initially to be confined to a core area of western Dane County and eastern Iowa County. Today, there are 18 counties where CWD has been found in the wild deer population, according to state figures. Nationally, CWD is known to exist in at least 21 states.

    That raises two questions: whether the rise in Creutzfeldt-Jakob cases is statistically significant, and whether it is linked to the spread of CWD.

    Wisconsin officials are skeptical on both counts.

    “The department believes the modest increase in the number of confirmed cases in the state is a reflection of our increased efforts to detect and confirm cases,” Jennifer Miller, a spokesperson for the Wisconsin Department of Health Services, said in an email.

    Since Creutzfeldt-Jakob occurs mainly in people over the age of 60, an aging population also may be factor, she said.

    Miller said that the increased surveillance of Creutzfeldt-Jakob cases began in 2002, when it became a reportable disease with vigorous follow-up. Prior to that, all figures were based on death certificate data.

    Nevertheless, the public health implications of CWD have gained some urgency.

    A study in Canada, where the deer disease also is present, found that macaque monkeys had contracted chronic wasting disease after being fed meat from deer that had tested positive for CWD. The findings are the first known transmissions of the prion disease to a primate from eating infected venison.

    “While no human cases of CWD have been reported to date, the new study findings raise concerns that people who hunt or consume meat from infected animals could be at risk for CWD infection,” Christine Pearson, a spokesperson for the CDC, said in an email.

    Concerns about possible transmission of the disease to humans have led to a two-pronged approach by the CDC: It is looking for unusual cases of human prion disease and attempting to find cases of prion disease in people who may have eaten meat from infected animals. Complicating that process, incubation periods for prion diseases can vary from several years to decades.

    In the meantime, the CDC says meat from infected deer should not be eaten and hunters should have their deer or elk tested if it came from an area where the disease is known to exist.

    For now, the CDC attributes the increase to an aging population, more awareness among neurologists and the use of the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio. The lab is where the brains of people with suspected Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease are sent for analysis and to monitor for any potential new prion diseases in people.

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    Default Rules and regulations for hunting you need to know before getting in the stand

    Rules and regulations for hunting you need to know before getting in the stand

    By: Austin Hyslip
    Posted: Nov 10, 2017 10:57 PM CST
    Updated: Nov 10, 2017 10:57 PM CST


    Modern gun hunting season opens tomorrow morning, but before you hop in the deer stand, there are some things you need to know. Not only is safety a high priority when hunting, there's also some rules you need to follow and if you don't there could be legal ramifications.

    The Missouri Department of Conservation requires that anyone hunting wear an orange vest and an orange hat. Not wearing this could result in a ticket or fine. Before using your gun, be sure to look it over and make sure the safety is in proper working condition as well as the gun itself. Also make sure to check all equipment for the deer stand, climbing gear as well as the stand.

    Jarid Wilkinson, Conservation Agent: "We will be patrolling the assigned counties that we’re in, taking phone calls as they come in. We’ll also be dealing with multiple issues from trespassing to baiting violations. Like if someone has corn out in front of their stand like they’re not supposed to things like that and just routine things around the county."

    New this year anyone who harvests a deer in a chronic wasting disease management zone like Barry, Dade or Cedar must get their deer checked. There are inspection locations for each county that the hunter will be required to go to.

    We have the list of those locations here.

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    Michigan deer are suffering from CWD.
    Michigan wardens check deer at mandatory CWD check station from this season


    A deadly disease that threatens to decimate Michigan’s whitetail deer population has shifted northwest from the Lansing area, some 100 miles, new test results show.

    All but one of the new cases of chronic wasting disease in the just-ended 2017 firearm season were discovered in free-ranging deer killed in Montcalm and Kent counties, 40 total, according to the Department of Natural Resources. One case was found in nearby Mecosta County.

    That is far more than nine so-called “zombie” whitetails identified in Ingham and Clinton counties the two previous years. It suggests the always-fatal disease has percolated in Michigan more extensively than previously known.

    “It's clear that Montcalm and Kent have had CWD longer than Ingham and Clinton where we have identified it,” said Chad Stewart, the DNR’s deer specialist. “What we don’t know is the space between (the outbreaks).”

    In all, 50 cases have now been identified in Michigan since the first emaciated, confused deer was killed by police east of Lansing in 2015. Three others were found from two penned deer farms or ranches in Mecosta County.

    Chronic wasting disease is unrecognizable — yet still infectious — in diseased deer in early stages. Its end-stage leaves deer emaciated, listless, drooling and unafraid of humans. Deformed proteins literally eat holes in the animal’s brain. Infectious disease experts caution against eating infected venison.

    The 2017 deer hunting season ended Monday. On Thursday, the state will begin two brief limited hunting seasons to see if wildlife experts can connect the dots between the two outbreaks.

    The special hunts will run through Sunday and Jan. 11-14 in northern Ionia County and eastern Montcalm County in 14 townships, some 500 square miles. Any deer killed must undergo testing for chronic wasting disease.

    “I'm not expecting a lot of deer to be harvested, but if we are able to identify a CWD-positive animal in this area, then it will provide valuable information to inform our management decisions going into next hunting season,” Stewart said.

    The DNR will soon begin capturing and collaring white-tailed deer in the western Upper Peninsula as part of a multi-year study to review herd movement as well as detect if the disease is present.

    “Limiting the spread of CWD is difficult, but even more so here in the U.P. where winter severity results in increased deer movements and yarding behavior that concentrates animals,” said Terry Minzey, DNR U.P. regional wildlife supervisor, in a statement.

    A special task force, meanwhile, is expected to give recommendations Jan. 11 to the state Natural Resources Commission on how to slow the disease that has devastated herds from Wisconsin to Colorado.

    Bans by the state against baiting and feeding in core disease areas expanded Monday.

    “We want to see a serious discussion about baiting and feeding in disease areas where we want to prevent the spread of the disease,” said Amy Trotter, deputy director of Michigan United Conservation Clubs, the state’s largest such organization.

    Michigan United Conservation Clubs has opposed baiting and feeding in the past, saying it congregates deer and assists the spread of infectious disease.

    “From our perspective, these numbers appear to indicate we have a new epicenter,” Trotter said of recent mandatory testing of hunted deer in high-concern areas. “What we need to know more is, Are we all linked up here? Mid-Michigan may be on the front edge of what direction it is moving.”

    At this point, the best hope is to contain — not eradicate — the disease, she said.

    “They are literally the walking dead,” Trotter said.

    Michigan’s known prevalence of the disease is still small but has the potential to expand greatly. In early stages, deer show no symptoms as they contaminate other deer through contact or soil infected for years from urine or feces.

    Prior to the recent hunting season, less than one in 1,000 white-tails tested positive since the first known free-ranging Michigan case in 2015, according to the DNR.

    By contrast, however, one in 100 deer tested positive in Montcalm County during the just-passed hunting season, 32. About one in 60 deer tested positive in more-limited testing in neighboring Kent County.

    A few were identified outside mandatory testing areas. Few showed symptoms, perhaps indicating the disease is in its early stages.

    Concerns about the disease’s movement rose after a free-ranging deer, a 1.5-year-old buck, was identified in Montcalm County’s Sidney Township in late October. An infected 6-year-old pregnant doe was killed weeks earlier in neighboring Montcalm Township during the youth hunt. Mandatory DNR testing of deer taken there and in parts of Mecosta and Kent were initiated.

    Deer hunting is an estimated $2.3 billion hunting industry in Michigan, with nearly 600,000 hunters participating in the November firearm season alone.


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    Prion poisoning seems to be a favorite theme of Martin’s. I guess it’s some disease that makes deer go batshit, or something like that. He keeps talking about it, but I just don’t see how it will affect anything. Oh yeah, now I remember, it crosses the species barrier and everyone will get sick and die from it.

    Chronic Wasting Disease is what these here deers supposedly get. That sounds more like the typical healthy whigger than an animal, quite frankly.

    Martin usually reserves ample time in his broadcasts to discuss this issue. Whether it truly will catch on and cross the species barrier is anyone’s guess. It seems almost too good to be true.

    I’ll tell you what’s suspicious. In the article linked above, one of those officials in charge of deer made sure to mention that he has no idea where it’s cuming from. That usually means jews are behind it.

    I don’t really get it. I don’t eat deer. And can’t you kill that shit by boiling it? Anyway, prion poisoning is the latest fad in coonspiracy theories. Whether this is a sign of the jewpocalypse or not remains to be seen. So far, I’m not impressed. You know AIDS is fake, right?




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    Deer hunting is big business in Missouri.

    Based on numbers from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, all those deer hunting permits, sales of archery gear, rifles and ammunition, hunting clothing, taxidermy services and other hunting-related dollars are worth about $1 billion to the Missouri economy each year.

    But the presence of an insidious ailment called chronic wasting disease might threaten the future of deer hunting in Missouri.

    It's 100 percent fatal in deer and elk that contract it and renders meat inedible, though there have been no confirmed cases of CWD transmission to people, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    So far, Missouri's wild deer population remains relatively safe from CWD — only 75 confirmed cases have been found since the state conservation department recorded the first case in the wild in 2012. But it's what has happened in other states that worries Missouri wildlife biologists.

    In Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, western Kansas and southern Wisconsin, CWD has spread widely in wild deer and elk herds. In the past two years, an outbreak of CWD in northwest Arkansas has resulted in 370 positive tests, mostly in the region's deer.

    There hasn't been an effective and proven way to stop CWD, though one controversial method shows some promise, according to Jasmine Batten, the Missouri Department of Conservation wildlife disease coordinator who is leading the state's effort to halt the disease.

    When CWD is discovered in Missouri, the conservation department targets deer within one to five miles of where the positive test occurred. Landowners and MDC staff shoot a certain number deer in those areas, both to test them for CWD and to remove a greater number of deer that have been exposed to CWD.

    The process is known as targeted culling.

    Fewer infected deer in the population may help slow the pace of the disease's spread and limit the amount of CWD in the soil, plants and water. At least that's the theory, Batten notes, adding that not all deer are killed in a culling area.

    "We learned a lot from the state of Illinois, which has been culling deer for 16 years or longer," Batten said. "Culling decreases the prevalence of CWD, especially compared to its neighbor to the north (Wisconsin). Once the disease becomes too widespread, the chance to limit it really goes down."

    Wisconsin tried culling but stopped the practice after deer hunters and landowners protested. The state went back to monitoring for CWD. The result: CWD began spreading again after culling was halted.

    In Missouri, MDC staff and landowners who agreed to participate in targeted culling have killed approximately 4,600 deer since culling began in 2013. MDC has spent $2.15 million on culling efforts, which includes the cost of lab testing, staff time and payments to meat processors.

    Meat that's free of CWD is returned to landowners or donated to MDC's Share the Harvest program.

    Tainted meat is destroyed.

    CWD: Missouri deer hunters on efforts to curb spread of chronic wasting disease

    During hunting seasons, landowners in designated CWD Core Areas also can get up to five "CWD Management Seals" from MDC that let them take more deer than a typical deer permit allows. MDC reimburses the landowner $60 per deer for the cost of processing the meat.

    The purpose of those seals is to help reduce the deer numbers where CWD has been found and to test more deer for CWD to gauge how deeply the disease has infected deer in those areas.

    Culling 4,600 deer over the past five years might sound like a lot, but it's a small number compared to the 1.36 million deer that Missouri hunters killed in approximately that same time frame.

    If culling works to slow the spread of CWD in Missouri, it's worth it, Batten said.

    "We absolutely have those concerns, that CWD could be a threat to Missouri's long-term hunting culture," she said. "But there's no way around the fact that in these very localized areas where CWD was confirmed, landowners who participate are making a big sacrifice. Deer densities will decrease in these culling areas. But our goal is to slow or stop the spread."


    How CWD works

    CWD is caused by a strange, misshapen protein called a prion that can be transmitted from deer to deer by physical contact. It also is spread by contact with soil, food, and water that have been contaminated through feces, urine, saliva — and carcasses — of infected deer.

    Velvet that bucks rub off from their new antlers? CWD can be transmitted in that soft material. Batten said it's possible, though less likely, that the blood trail left behind from a wounded deer infected with CWD could transmit the disease to other deer.

    CWD: Why chronic wasting disease could change the way Americans hunt forever

    A CWD-infected deer will lose weight and stagger around, eventually dying from the disease. Perhaps more significantly, once a deer dies, those prions can persist in the ground long after the deer decomposes and can continue to infect other deer.

    Even forest fires aren't hot enough to kill prions in the environment.

    Another problem with CWD: It might take 18 months or more for an infected deer to look visibly sick. During that time, though, it's still spreading prions in the environment.


    A growing problem in 23 states

    Nationwide, CWD has been found in 23 states and continues to spread, according to Kip Adams, spokesman for the Quality Deer Management Association. QDMA, based in Georgia, works with hunters, landowners and state conservation agencies to improve the habitat and health of wild deer.

    "CWD is one of the biggest threats to deer hunting and deer management programs," Adams said. "We are seeing population declines in deer herds, especially in Wyoming, and there's been no real success in states keeping it out of their borders."

    Missouri hopes to stop what has happened elsewhere. In states like Colorado, Wyoming and Wisconsin, where CWD is now deeply entrenched, deer herds are diminishing. In Wyoming, 19 percent of the wild deer herd now dies annually from CWD, according to conservation figures.

    While deer hunting is declining nationwide for many reasons, the prevalence of CWD in popular hunting areas is one of them. There is concern that the fear of eating deer or elk contaminated with CWD might deter others from taking up the sport.

    CWD: Can chronic wasting disease jump from deer to humans? Concerns keep rising

    Adams said it's believed that CWD might have jumped from sheep to captive deer in Colorado in the 1960s, possibly through a mutated version of scrapie — a neurological disease in sheep caused by prions.

    "They suspect it went from those captive deer to the wild population," Adams said. "Deer, elk and moose are the only animals that get CWD, and elk are not nearly as susceptible to it as deer."

    He said MDC's intense effort to sample deer for CWD — as well as its culling efforts where CWD is found — is a good approach.

    "Nobody in the country is sampling deer at as high a rate as MDC," he said.

    MDC began testing deer for CWD in 2001, after seeing the disease spread in neighboring states. It now encourages voluntary testing of deer killed by hunters, as well as mandatory testing in 31 counties where CWD has been confirmed, or where it's likely to appear, such as southern counties bordering Arkansas.

    While it's true that no human has contracted CWD from handling or eating an infected deer, Adams said the CDC's warning against eating CWD contaminated meat should be strictly followed.

    "We don't know that barrier will always be that way," he said.

    First contact in Missouri

    How did CWD arrive in Missouri? That's a troubling question, according to MDC's Batten.

    She said the first confirmed case was discovered in 2010 in a herd of captive deer at a big-game hunting preserve in northwest Missouri.

    "That detection behind the fence triggered wider testing of our wild herd," Batten said. "In 2012 we had five positives in wild deer within one or two miles of that positive game preserve. We think it's a likely vector, but we can't say with certainty that's where it came from."

    The captive deer at the preserve were destroyed, Batten said.

    Once in Missouri's wild deer, CWD began showing up in pockets around the state. Batten said it is unlikely the disease is spreading in Missouri's herd of approximately 1.2 million deer through natural deer dispersal alone. It is likely that humans are helping to spread the disease, potentially through the movement of infected deer carcasses.

    "It spreads slowly in the environment," Batten said. "We know it's progressing in the state, but we can't say with any certainty how it's spreading. We also can't assume the disease was introduced into the state only that first time."

    The possible link between captive deer and CWD prompted the Missouri Conservation Commission in 2015 to tighten rules on businesses that hold or raise captive deer, requiring higher fences to prevent escapes, more testing for CWD and a ban on importing captive deer into Missouri.

    According to MDC, as of July Missouri had 44 permitted big-game hunting preserves and 138 permitted wildlife breeders with white-tailed deer. Those operators reported about 150 captive deer escaped into the wild between 2012 and 2014.

    Several Missouri deer breeders and big-game hunting preserves sued MDC, claiming captive deer were livestock, not wild animals, that were beyond MDC's authority.

    They succeeded in getting an injunction to stop the implementation of the tougher regulations.

    But in July, the Missouri Supreme Court ruled in favor of MDC, giving it full regulatory control over captive deer and elk and upholding the tougher rules the conservation commission approved in 2015.

    Now that it understands how CWD is affecting Missouri's wild deer, MDC is proposing several new regulations to slow the disease's spread.

    The department will be taking public comment on the proposals, and the earliest any of the rules could realistically go into effect would be the fall of 2019.

    Ongoing efforts

    MDC is offering free CWD sampling and testing of deer harvested anywhere in the state throughout the entire deer hunting season, which runs through Jan. 15. The sampling is voluntary, and hunters can also get free test results for their deer.

    Hunters can have their deer sampled at 11 select MDC offices around the state. Hunters can also take their deer to 64 participating taxidermists and meat processors located in the 48 counties of MDC’s CWD Management Zone.

    Find locations and more information on voluntary CWD sampling at mdc.mo.gov/cwd under “Voluntary CWD Sampling All Season.”

    Hunters can get test results for their CWD-sampled deer online at mdc.mo.gov/CWDTestResults.

    Mandatory CWD sampling Nov. 10 and 11

    MDC will again conduct mandatory CWD sampling in 31 of the 48 counties of its CWD Management Zone during the opening weekend of the fall firearms deer season, Nov. 10 and 11.

    The counties include new ones added to the CWD Management Zone, counties with previous CWD positives, and counties very near previous positives.

    The 31 counties for mandatory CWD sampling are: Adair, Barry, Bollinger, Cape Girardeau, Cedar, Cole, Crawford, Franklin, Grundy, Hickory, Jefferson, Knox, Linn, Macon, Madison, McDonald, Mercer, Moniteau, Ozark, Perry, Polk, Putnam, St. Charles, St. Clair, St. Francois, Ste. Genevieve, Stone, Sullivan, Taney, Warren and Washington.
    Hunters who harvest deer from these counties Nov. 10 or 11 must take their deer — or the head with at least 6 inches of the neck in place — on the day of harvest to one of MDC's 61 CWD mandatory sampling stations. Deer may be presented at any mandatory sampling station.

    Find locations for mandatory CWD sampling at mdc.mo.gov/cwd under “Mandatory CWD Sampling Nov. 10-11.”

    Proper deer disposal to limit CWD

    MDC reminds deer hunters that properly disposing of carcasses of harvested deer is important in limiting the spread of chronic wasting disease. MDC also reminds hunters who harvest deer, elk, or moose outside of Missouri and bring the animals back to follow related regulations to help limit the spread of CWD.

    To help avoid this exposure risk, MDC recommends the following carcass disposal methods:

    Place in trash or landfill: The best way to prevent the spread of CWD is to place carcass remains in trash bags and dispose of them through trash collection or a permitted landfill;

    Bury on site: If you can’t bag and place in trash or a permitted landfill, bury carcass remains at or near where the deer was harvested. Bury deep enough to prevent access by scavengers. Burial will reduce but not eliminate the risks of spreading CWD;

    Leave on site: As a last resort, leave carcass remains on site. While this will not prevent scavengers from scattering potentially infectious parts, the remains will stay in the general area where the deer was taken. If CWD is already present in that area, it will likely remain there and not be moved to another area;

    Do not place in water: It is illegal to dispose of carcasses or remains in streams, ponds, or other bodies of water;

    Do not burn: Only commercial incinerators reaching over 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit can generate enough heat for long enough to destroy the prions that cause CWD.

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