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    Default Arrived 7-8-09

    My internet nick is Drighten. Some here may know me from other places and some may not. I can say that I know there is perhaps one or two folks here I don't particularly like. But that's ok this isn't a popularity contest. But I've been a part of the movement for awhile now and I am often compelled to keep some of the ilk in check. I didn't come here for confrontation but to learn more about DSLI although I don't agree totally with it on most aspects I do.

    I am also here to learn more about Brother Martin and his leadership skills (if he has them) and goals for the AN here in Missouri. And to help if possible. Although I have to admit after reading many of his posts already many of his terms seem to escape me. I am ecstatic to see Brother Martin tell the saga of one Glen Miller like it really is and not like some of the traitors on other forums have tried to do in the past.

    Essentially I am here why most of us are here I suppose. To learn and encourage and empower one another when and where we can.

    NOTE: I was asked to include the following that I wrote upon joining this forum to help others with some of the same issue's or questions and to help administration answer some of the issue brought up.

    Well I am a White Nationalist and as of not very long ago a Christian. So
    that is pretty self explanatory why I would be attracted to such a forum.
    I am not a spammer. You can do a search for me on stormfront to see that I another reason why I want to be on more than just stormfront. The neo cons
    are taking over many of the boards and liberalizing them to the point they
    are unrecognizable as white nationalist boards.
    I fear many of them are not anymore truth be known. I also like the forum to do more research on DSCI although that isn't 'exactly' what I believe I would still enjoy
    learning more about it. The primary difference between my belief and DSCI
    is that I don't believe satan has the power to create life. As in have his
    own kids...AKA the kikes. Now I do believe that through the transgression
    of sin ( race mixing) the jews as a race have sold their souls and loyalty
    to satan and are part of a concentrated effort to destroy the white race.

    But I will say this. I am not a yes man. I show loyalty to those that have
    their heads and priorities straight. And if I believe someone is wrong or
    simply in error I will put them to the task. And that means ANYONE. I
    attack idea's NOT kinsmen unless they are outright traitors or their views
    /actions are a present danger to the safty and well being of other
    kinsmen.

    I will add that I've been in the movement for over 20 years now
    and I've learned a few things that I feel might help our cause. I would
    like to hope so. Also a specific question I have is does one have to
    believe in DSLI in order to be a member of your branch of aryan nations??
    Or can just being a christian suffice? Thanks for your help Brother
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    Default Signing on a Christian Israelite, One At A Time, On Christian Nationalist Forum

    Signing on a Christian Israelite, One At A Time, On Christian Nationalist Forum

    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...sted=1#post570
    http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthre...098#post196098

    Quote Originally Posted by Drighten View Post
    My internet nick is Drighten. Some here may know me from other places and some may not. I can say that I know there is perhaps one or two folks here I don't particularly like. But that's ok this isn't a popularity contest. But I've been a part of the movement for awhile now and I am often compelled to keep some of the ilk in check. I didn't come here for confrontation but to learn more about DSLI although I don't agree totally with it on most aspects I do.

    I am also here to learn more about Brother Martin and his leadership skills (if he has them) and goals for the AN here in Missouri. And to help if possible. Although I have to admit after reading many of his posts already many of his terms seem to escape me. I am ecstatic to see Brother Martin tell the saga of one Glen Miller like it really is and not like some of the traitors on other forums have tried to do in the past.

    Essentially I am here why most of us are here I suppose. To learn and encourage and empower one another when and where we can.

    Quote Originally Posted by original e-mail

    NOTE: I was asked to include the following that I wrote upon joining this forum to help others with some of the same issue's or questions and to help administration answer some of the issue brought up.

    Well I am a White Nationalist and as of not very long ago a Christian. So
    that is pretty self explanatory why I would be attracted to such a forum.
    I am not a spammer. You can do a search for me on stormfront to see that I another reason why I want to be on more than just stormfront. The neo cons
    are taking over many of the boards and liberalizing them to the point they
    are unrecognizable as white nationalist boards.
    I fear many of them are not anymore truth be known. I also like the forum to do more research on DSCI although that isn't 'exactly' what I believe I would still enjoy
    learning more about it. The primary difference between my belief and DSCI
    is that I don't believe satan has the power to create life. As in have his
    own kids...AKA the kikes. Now I do believe that through the transgression
    of sin ( race mixing) the jews as a race have sold their souls and loyalty
    to satan and are part of a concentrated effort to destroy the white race.

    But I will say this. I am not a yes man. I show loyalty to those that have
    their heads and priorities straight. And if I believe someone is wrong or
    simply in error I will put them to the task. And that means ANYONE. I
    attack idea's NOT kinsmen unless they are outright traitors or their views
    /actions are a present danger to the safty and well being of other
    kinsmen.

    I will add that I've been in the movement for over 20 years now
    and I've learned a few things that I feel might help our cause. I would
    like to hope so. Also a specific question I have is does one have to
    believe in DSLI in order to be a member of your branch of aryan nations??
    Or can just being a christian suffice? Thanks for your help Brother
    This is my initial answer to Drighten last night:

    I went ahead and approved your account. Welcome to Christian Mationalist
    Forum.

    The above letter would be perfect for an introduction post, if you wish to
    use it as such. I in turn would post this as my reply.

    $permFront and VNNF are simply ZOG false-front forums. They simply get
    fools to join and send them the small amount of geezergelt to $permfront
    and whiggaz-mites to VNNF for Alex Linder and TraitorGlenn Miller to drink
    up. Thus they take what small amount of money which is is the Movement out
    into the pockets of crooks and at the same time collect information on
    those they deem dangerous. They are on the lookout for the next James Von
    Brunn, who ran a apam-list and then went 'lone wolf.' Actually, James
    didn't go 'lone wolf' but rather on a suicide mission.

    These forums were owned by ZOG in the first place. VNNF is the place where
    100 whiggers post 100,000 whiggroid 'MuhDikkk!!!' posts. $permFront is
    simply a place where whiggers who want to join something are encouraged to
    do so and give money. So it is not quite accurate to talk of the jews
    taking over these forums when they were owned by the jews as a false-front
    all along.

    Now you are encouraged here to think for yourself. Being able to think for
    yourself is the hallmark that you are one of the one-in-twenty of Whites
    able to have some leadership ability. You need to think for yourself in
    order to be any sort of leader. When you have been around, you find out
    that an ability to think is so rare that you welcome it even when the
    associate doesn't think the same way you do. This hunger for competence is
    in large part why I made peace with Harold Covington even though we have
    out religious and political differences and were at odds for a few years.
    The thing is that I am so busy fighting with whiggers and regime criminals
    that I don't have the time or inclination to fight with Covington who
    agrees with me 80-90% of the time.

    Additionally, the Movement is not a hierarchy, but rather a network in
    which less than a half-dozen major players and less than a hundred
    sub-chieftains contend. Everyone knows each other. The $permFrontians and
    Alex Linder knows me, which is why I'm not allowed on $permFront or VNNF.
    Which is why I end up spying on them, or rather have spies spying on them
    and reporting to me if they think I had ought to see something.

    TraitorGlenn Miller or ZOG rats are ridiculed here. Ask Rabang 'Albion'
    Miller about that. I don't believe in censorship, but I do believe in
    jewlagging certain posters and posts.

    OK, to answer your last question. Aryan Nations was set up as the
    political arm of the Church of Jesus Christ Christian, a Dual-Seedline
    Christian Identity church. Strictly speaking, yes, you have to be a
    Christian Israelite and a Dual-Seedliner AND have political ability to get
    very far within the Aryan Nations. August Kreis was rightfully castigated
    for simply taking $25 for a membership fee and once he opened it up to
    non-DSCI, he then opened membership even to non-whites. I recently had to
    shut down some people who claimed to be Aryan Nations who were not DSCI
    but rather heathen and/or papists. They hated DSCI and even CI in general.

    However, what this faction of the Aryan Nations is doing is training
    warlords to use religion as one of their weapons and as a shield. Do I
    know what you really are thinking? Probably not. What prevents you from
    using DSCI theology to massacre jews and treat regime-criminal whiggers as
    enemies to be disposed of harshly while you have mental reservations? Why,
    nothing. Over on StumbleInn there are a number of young whites who will
    join my faction hoping to use it to be warlords and I have no problem with
    it.

    However, if you are not a true believer, you will not fool those of us who
    are true believers for very long. This is why a genuine DSCI church is so
    difficult to impossible for ZOG to infiltraite.

    You also don't seem to understand how we are organized. Every DSCI pastor
    in this Aryan Nations alliance has complete control and autonomy over his
    area of state or region. The reason is because there is no way that I can
    control what goes on in New York or Georgia or even much outside my
    county. Pastor Jay Faber broke our alliance because he was unable to
    understand and agree with this reality.

    So I wouldn't be in alliance with you unless you were an aboverground DSCI
    pastor or teacher. Nor am I going to be telling you what to do and
    vice-versa. Aryan Nations is not a membership organization. My faction
    doesn't sell memberships like August Kreis did.

    Aryan Nations is thus an aboveground POLITICAL organization, not a
    military or warfighting organization able to be infiltraited. There is
    nothing for ZOG to get aholt of. Rather it is a network of DSCI activists
    working in their area with others as they see fit.

    So I hope this has answered your question. Perhaps you can't understand
    because you are not DSCI. There is no hierarchy, only a network. Your
    place in the network is determined by how much you do and the quality of
    your activism. It is a matter of public reputation within the DSCI portion
    of the Movement.

    The Christian Nationalist Forum is open to pretty much everyone, not just
    DSCI. I don't want it becoming another $permFront or VNNF, though.

    I hope you will use above post as an introduction so I can post this
    response.

    Hail Victory!!!

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    http://www.pastorlindstedt.org/cjccanmo.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by PastorLindstedt View Post
    Signing on a Christian Israelite, One At A Time, On Christian Nationalist Forum

    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...sted=1#post570
    http://stumbleinn.net/forum/showthre...098#post196098



    This is my initial answer to Drighten last night:

    I went ahead and approved your account. Welcome to Christian Mationalist
    Forum.

    The above letter would be perfect for an introduction post, if you wish to
    use it as such. I in turn would post this as my reply.

    $permFront and VNNF are simply ZOG false-front forums. They simply get
    fools to join and send them the small amount of geezergelt to $permfront
    and whiggaz-mites to VNNF for Alex Linder and TraitorGlenn Miller to drink
    up. Thus they take what small amount of money which is is the Movement out
    into the pockets of crooks and at the same time collect information on
    those they deem dangerous. They are on the lookout for the next James Von
    Brunn, who ran a apam-list and then went 'lone wolf.' Actually, James
    didn't go 'lone wolf' but rather on a suicide mission.

    These forums were owned by ZOG in the first place. VNNF is the place where
    100 whiggers post 100,000 whiggroid 'MuhDikkk!!!' posts. $permFront is
    simply a place where whiggers who want to join something are encouraged to
    do so and give money. So it is not quite accurate to talk of the jews
    taking over these forums when they were owned by the jews as a false-front
    all along.

    Now you are encouraged here to think for yourself. Being able to think for
    yourself is the hallmark that you are one of the one-in-twenty of Whites
    able to have some leadership ability. You need to think for yourself in
    order to be any sort of leader. When you have been around, you find out
    that an ability to think is so rare that you welcome it even when the
    associate doesn't think the same way you do. This hunger for competence is
    in large part why I made peace with Harold Covington even though we have
    out religious and political differences and were at odds for a few years.
    The thing is that I am so busy fighting with whiggers and regime criminals
    that I don't have the time or inclination to fight with Covington who
    agrees with me 80-90% of the time.

    Additionally, the Movement is not a hierarchy, but rather a network in
    which less than a half-dozen major players and less than a hundred
    sub-chieftains contend. Everyone knows each other. The $permFrontians and
    Alex Linder knows me, which is why I'm not allowed on $permFront or VNNF.
    Which is why I end up spying on them, or rather have spies spying on them
    and reporting to me if they think I had ought to see something.

    TraitorGlenn Miller or ZOG rats are ridiculed here. Ask Rabang 'Albion'
    Miller about that. I don't believe in censorship, but I do believe in
    jewlagging certain posters and posts.

    OK, to answer your last question. Aryan Nations was set up as the
    political arm of the Church of Jesus Christ Christian, a Dual-Seedline
    Christian Identity church. Strictly speaking, yes, you have to be a
    Christian Israelite and a Dual-Seedliner AND have political ability to get
    very far within the Aryan Nations. August Kreis was rightfully castigated
    for simply taking $25 for a membership fee and once he opened it up to
    non-DSCI, he then opened membership even to non-whites. I recently had to
    shut down some people who claimed to be Aryan Nations who were not DSCI
    but rather heathen and/or papists. They hated DSCI and even CI in general.

    However, what this faction of the Aryan Nations is doing is training
    warlords to use religion as one of their weapons and as a shield. Do I
    know what you really are thinking? Probably not. What prevents you from
    using DSCI theology to massacre jews and treat regime-criminal whiggers as
    enemies to be disposed of harshly while you have mental reservations? Why,
    nothing. Over on StumbleInn there are a number of young whites who will
    join my faction hoping to use it to be warlords and I have no problem with
    it.

    However, if you are not a true believer, you will not fool those of us who
    are true believers for very long. This is why a genuine DSCI church is so
    difficult to impossible for ZOG to infiltraite.

    You also don't seem to understand how we are organized. Every DSCI pastor
    in this Aryan Nations alliance has complete control and autonomy over his
    area of state or region. The reason is because there is no way that I can
    control what goes on in New York or Georgia or even much outside my
    county. Pastor Jay Faber broke our alliance because he was unable to
    understand and agree with this reality.

    So I wouldn't be in alliance with you unless you were an aboverground DSCI
    pastor or teacher. Nor am I going to be telling you what to do and
    vice-versa. Aryan Nations is not a membership organization. My faction
    doesn't sell memberships like August Kreis did.

    Aryan Nations is thus an aboveground POLITICAL organization, not a
    military or warfighting organization able to be infiltraited. There is
    nothing for ZOG to get aholt of. Rather it is a network of DSCI activists
    working in their area with others as they see fit.

    So I hope this has answered your question. Perhaps you can't understand
    because you are not DSCI. There is no hierarchy, only a network. Your
    place in the network is determined by how much you do and the quality of
    your activism. It is a matter of public reputation within the DSCI portion
    of the Movement.

    The Christian Nationalist Forum is open to pretty much everyone, not just
    DSCI. I don't want it becoming another $permFront or VNNF, though.

    I hope you will use above post as an introduction so I can post this
    response.

    Hail Victory!!!

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    http://www.pastorlindstedt.org/cjccanmo.html
    Thank you Brother for your professional and informative answer to at least most of my pertinent questions. I am not going to comment on all your answers as I am not here to even give the appearance of attacking a person or doctrine even. I am not DSCI so as per what you have said being able to become very involved with your branch of the Aryan Nations is not very likely. That's ok by me. Every group or individual must have their standards.
    Your talk of 'organization structure' reflects that you have experience in the area and I am definitly in line with your line of thinking there.

    I will admit I don't like some of the personalities that DSCI attracts and might even promote I don't know. But they tend to be condescending mouth pieces that breed contention in the Lords house. They lack professional methods of communication and people skills. Which you and I know to be rather mandatory in most realms of activism.

    Oh you ask the question above do you know what I am thinking. Well it won't take long because I am pretty out spoken.

    Now I have a question to ask you and please do not drag me into the pit of endless dialogue of 'they aren't really aryan nations' unless you have some type of proof someone is a fed operation or something of course. But is there an AN faction that accepts one seed liners that isn't obsessed with NS symbolism? I see NS symbols as counter productive at this point.
    If you don't want to publicly give props to another AN faction then you can IM me of course. Remember this is about whats best for our race and cause not to pet private ego's. As a matter of fact doing Gods work is the most under appreciated work there is. For now.... until Gods Kingdom come.

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    I know Martin (a little) from another forum. I am not DSCI, but I do share some (many) of the same thoughts/opinions on certain subjects, as PastorLindstedt.
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