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http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=1758#post1758
Hi, guys.
This is a private communication which I originally wanted to classify as confidential, but then I thought to myself, “Why?” There’s nothing in here I’m ashamed of, or which I should object to being discussed in public. I am initially sending this to a small group of people who I believe may be in a position to help me with this, but if you think someone else can help with this, by all means, pass it on.
I’m going to be discussing a problem we’ve been having over the past year or so and asking for your help in an attempt, not to solve it, but at least to develop a workaround for it. I may seem like I’m rambling here, but this is going to take some explanation, so please bear with me.
30,000 Hard Core White Nationalists
Now, as most of you will be aware, there is a fairly extensive racially conscious community on the internet that makes a practice of hanging out, mostly lurking but also posting, on a number of bulletin boards and forums, mostly VBulletin and phbb boards. The racially aware Whites on these forums number anywhere from between 25,000 to 50,000 people, depending on which forums you include in the count. I myself put the number of hard-core, fully aware White racial nationalists on the internet at about 30,000 people, 90 percent of them male, and if you include progressively softening levels of conservatism from Tea Party on up to John Birch Society, maybe as many as 100,000 people.
Let’s get back to my figure of 30,000 as a working number of actual internet racists, or maybe racially aware individuals would be a better term. I think that’s actually a fairly good guess, although it’s hard because of all the overlap and because of the use of multiple internet identities. Most of those 30,000 White Nationalists are concentrated on about five top boards: Stormfront, VNN, White Nationalist Info, freerepublic.com, and New Saxon.org. There are of course dozens of other boards, including Jamie Kelso’s very up and coming White News Now. There are specialty forums for intellectual conservative eggheads, gun nuts, Obama birthers, Federal Reserve fanatics, so forth and so on. Allowing for overlap and different identities on all these boards, I think 30,000 is about right.
Now, ever since the Party established the northwestfront.org web site in August of 2009, we have been attempting to use these boards and forums to convey the message of Northwest independence and freedom and get people to at least visit our web site and from there get in contact with the Party. We have to gain access to that hard core 30,000.
I know we need to try and break out of the Movement bubble and into the White mainstream, but that is going to be very hard, as destitute as we are and as few and scattered as we are. It’s like panning for gold. You know there’s a big vein of gold right inside the mountain near the stream you’re working, but you don’t have the equipment necessary to break into the mountain and get at the mother lode. So what you have to do is keep on panning and panning, picking up a little nugget here and a bit of gold dust there, and then you go into town and come back with dynamite and tools and heavy machinery and some miners you’ve hired, you sink a proper shaft and then you can access the main gold supply. That is realistically how we are going to have to break out of the bubble.
We have to get as much of the existing racially conscious community as we can on board. We must get as many as we can to relocate here to the Homeland to form our baseline of active crews in all our major areas, get that all important ten dollars a month in Party dues off them so we can finance a movement, and then we have the human and financial and material resources available to force our way into the mainstream by doing responsible things to gather responsible and serious media publicity, but which can only be done with people and with money.
Are you with me so far? Missionary work among the Muggles is fine, I certainly don’t want to discourage that, but realistically we have to begin by accessing the hard core of 30,000 or so people who are already racially aware, so that we can get our first “leg up.” Yes, especially financially. We need to stop being embarrassed or reluctant to speak of such things; money is vitally important, and all 30,000 of those people are potential contributors.
Nordvest Verboten
I myself am banned from posting on almost all of these major VBulletin boards, usually because back in the 1990s I dared to criticize someone’s favorite guru. You have to bear in mind that the Movement lacks any concept of legitimate dissent or disagreement, that among us everything is always personal, and that among us the slightest criticism usually means a lifelong vendetta, which the internet of course lends itself to.
The one notable exception to this, if I dare mention it for fear of breaking the good luck charm, has been New Saxon.org. I have to say that the webmasters there have been completely fair and shown great comradeship and White solidarity to me and to all the Northwest Front people who post there, in spite of the pressure which has been brought against them by the Goat Dancers. I really appreciate the courtesy and the assistance New Saxon.org has shown to me and to all of our Party people.
However, a number of our NF comrades have attempted to use other boards and forums in order to tell people about the party, to discuss the Northwest novels, to post the URL to our website and so on, and they haven’t been treated nearly so well. In many cases the owners and the moderators are implacably hostile to the Northwest, either because they have some 1990s beef with me personally, or else because they view us, quite correctly, as competition.
They are afraid of losing their little internet empires where the wheels constantly spin round and round and no one gets anywhere. They are afraid their people will be irresistibly attracted to the genuine and workable idea of a Northwest Republic. These Lords of the Internet are terrified that the Northwest idea will catch on, and that we will succeed in pulling the Movement off the internet and back into the real world and away from them, their egos, and their little orbit. And they’re right. Someday we will.
Until then, the Lords of the Internet either refuse to approve posts from Northwest Front people, they refuse to publish the links to northwestfront.org and northwestrepublic.com, they edit and tamper with people’s posts, or they just plain kick our people off the board the minute they mention the novels or identify themselves Northwest separatists. Don’t worry, I won’t name the offending boards because when I name names everybody gets upset and they start weeping that Harold is “attacking people” and “fighting feuds” again.
But it gets worse.
There are other forums around the internet such as blogs that allow comments, and sometimes those comments can develop into full blown debates. A phenomenon has developed where NF comrades appear to be getting followed and stalked around the internet, by what appears to be three or four specific people, although they hide behind sock puppets a lot. They presumably find any pro-Northwest posts or threads using search engines or packet-sniffing software, and anywhere our guys attempt to post anything favorable about the NF or the Northwest novels, all of a sudden the Goat Dance breaks out and it’s a bunch of idiots shouting abuse at me and against the Northwest idea.
The reason I can tell this is actual stalking is that I’m starting to recognize some of the scripts; the same standard phrases, expressions and responses over and over, sometimes verbatim from one site to another but under different names, that kind of thing.
On March the 10th of this year, an especially disgraceful and egregious example of this took place. I have to admit I was right in the middle of it, and that was very much my mistake. I allowed myself to be suckered into an internet discussion in the comments section of a web site that is supposed to be respectable, if that word can be applied to any of our sites, but which was at least supposed to be run by serious and mature men. Yet I found myself in the White internet version of ambush TV when the Goat Dance broke out. It was kind of like being invited to go on Meet The Press and finding yourself on the Jerry Springer show instead.
Okay, like I said, that one was my bad, and I shouldn’t have fallen for it, but something happened on that occasion that really gets me to thinking paranoid and conspiratorial thoughts.
Without getting into specifics, since like I said, I know people get all upset when I name names and discuss details, one of the moderators on that March 10th site--a man who, to the best of my knowledge, I have never met, at least not under that name, leveled a specific accusation against me, which was a lie, pure and simple. An accusation which he knew perfectly well was a lie, which he had to know was a lie, because I just plain did not do the thing he accused me of, and there is therefore no way he could have had the so-called evidence he claimed he had. You have to understand, there is no possibility of an honest mistake here.
Now, this puzzles me. Why would someone do something like that, to someone he does not know and has never met, and who has never (so far as I know) offended him personally? Maybe I am giving in to the very paranoia I decry in my Radio Free Northwest podcasts, but for real, guys, I sense a hidden agenda here.
I understand where most of this anti-Covington crap comes from, who it’s coming from and why. It mostly comes from the 1990s when I made a practice of analyzing and criticizing the behavior of three specific Movement gurus, two of whom are now dead and one of whom is rotting away on some remote farm in Indiana. Those gurus still have their cult followers today and they can’t forgive me because I refused to bow down and kiss their gurus’ rings, or whatever else they wanted kissed.
Okay, those guys I get, and yes, sometimes it’s them who follow me all over the internet hollering and screaming and cackling. I think it’s silly and childish for them to do that, but I know who they are, and I get it.
But this other, this that’s been happening since August when we got our own web site up…this is starting to look like something else. I have noticed in past years that any time the Northwest idea does in fact make a step or two forward, one Induhvidual specifically suddenly makes his appearance, sometimes after years of silence, almost like he’s being deployed. Sure enough, there he was on March 10th, screaming like a howler monkey.
“Cognitive Dissonance”
It’s definitely some kind of seminar or scripted stalking program. Now, some of you may remember an article I posted several months ago on the Thoughtcrime blog about a Jewish White House official named Cass Sunstein and a program he has developed for controlling the internet called “cognitive dissonance,” wherein any internet discussions or web sites or topics that the White House disapproves of, like the Obama birther movement for example, is disrupted by a stream of constant niggling, off-topic, digressive, gossipy and scandalous posts that divert people’s attention away from the main subject at hand and cause the thread or the site to lose cohesion and focus and dwindle off into irrelevancy. Some people have asked me if that’s what might be going on here. I don’t know. Maybe.
But the fact remains that on these major VBulletin boards and other forums, the Northwest Front and the Northwest imperative simply is not getting a fair shake. We are not getting the access to those 30,000 hard-core racial White Nationalists that we should, and it is starting to seriously hold us back. Which is no doubt the intention.
Now, we can’t really do much about this dog in the manger behavior per se. Those boards belong to their owners, and any hacking we might to do try and force them to give us an even break is probably illegal, although it was done once when Billy Roper grabbed VNN from Alex Linder and managed to kick Glenn Miller and all his butt buddies off the board for a couple of weeks. Then for some reason Roper eventually handed VNN back to Linder, and back swaggered Miller and his toadies. But I digress.
Finally!
Okay, don’t worry, I’m finally coming to the point.
We can’t force these people to treat us fairly and let us draw water from the well. We have to find a workaround. Bluntly, what we must do is cross-drill them.
We have to develop our own lines of communication directly to the racially conscious and hard conservative community, bypassing the big VBulletin boards and their hostile owners and moderators. We have to be able to speak directly and without censorship or intervention from either Cass Sunstein’s cognitive dissonance internet operatives, or from our own idiots, to as many of the 30,000 racially aware people on those boards and forums as we can.
What I want you guys to do is as follows: I want e-mail addresses. As many as you can find.
You all know the racial boards and forums I am referring to, I’m sure. Scour them for any kind of e-mail address that would allow direct access to the posters. Go to every racial web site and blog you can find and send me any kind of direct e-mail address you can find.
Yes, I know, there will be paranoid wing-nuts who scream “Harold is asking for addresses! He’s a fed, he’s a spy, yaaaaaahhhh gobble gobble gooble goo….” Screw those morons. The Party has to communicate with White people, and for that I need to know where our own are. Does anyone here really think the FBI and DHS don’t have our e-mail addresses already? Ever heard of Echelon? The FBI knows who we are, but we don’t, and we can’t communicate with one another until we do.
And yes, I’m going to spam them now and again. Don’t worry, I won’t be sending them 50 e-mails idea like I was selling Viagra or meds from Canadian pharmacies.
Our goal is to assemble the biggest communication network in the Movement, if possible bigger than all the cumulative VBulletin board membership put together and overlapping with that membership so the Party can post to those people without filtering our message through the hostile boards and without being at the mercy of the hostile and in some cased deranged or deliberately suborned moderators.
Eventually, when the Northwest Front speaks, I want the whole Movement to listen. I want them to listen directly to the voice of the Party, without noise and static from some cackling freak hiding in a cave in Tennessee—or some government cognitive dissonance operative hiding behind a computer in some cubicle in Washington DC who is pretending to be the cackling freak in Tennessee.
Come on, guys. I think you can envision what I’m talking about. Help me out here.
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=1758#post1758
Hi, guys.
This is a private communication which I originally wanted to classify as confidential, but then I thought to myself, “Why?” There’s nothing in here I’m ashamed of, or which I should object to being discussed in public. I am initially sending this to a small group of people who I believe may be in a position to help me with this, but if you think someone else can help with this, by all means, pass it on.
I’m going to be discussing a problem we’ve been having over the past year or so and asking for your help in an attempt, not to solve it, but at least to develop a workaround for it. I may seem like I’m rambling here, but this is going to take some explanation, so please bear with me.
30,000 Hard Core White Nationalists
Now, as most of you will be aware, there is a fairly extensive racially conscious community on the internet that makes a practice of hanging out, mostly lurking but also posting, on a number of bulletin boards and forums, mostly VBulletin and phbb boards. The racially aware Whites on these forums number anywhere from between 25,000 to 50,000 people, depending on which forums you include in the count. I myself put the number of hard-core, fully aware White racial nationalists on the internet at about 30,000 people, 90 percent of them male, and if you include progressively softening levels of conservatism from Tea Party on up to John Birch Society, maybe as many as 100,000 people.
Let’s get back to my figure of 30,000 as a working number of actual internet racists, or maybe racially aware individuals would be a better term. I think that’s actually a fairly good guess, although it’s hard because of all the overlap and because of the use of multiple internet identities. Most of those 30,000 White Nationalists are concentrated on about five top boards: Stormfront, VNN, White Nationalist Info, freerepublic.com, and New Saxon.org. There are of course dozens of other boards, including Jamie Kelso’s very up and coming White News Now. There are specialty forums for intellectual conservative eggheads, gun nuts, Obama birthers, Federal Reserve fanatics, so forth and so on. Allowing for overlap and different identities on all these boards, I think 30,000 is about right.
Now, ever since the Party established the northwestfront.org web site in August of 2009, we have been attempting to use these boards and forums to convey the message of Northwest independence and freedom and get people to at least visit our web site and from there get in contact with the Party. We have to gain access to that hard core 30,000.
I know we need to try and break out of the Movement bubble and into the White mainstream, but that is going to be very hard, as destitute as we are and as few and scattered as we are. It’s like panning for gold. You know there’s a big vein of gold right inside the mountain near the stream you’re working, but you don’t have the equipment necessary to break into the mountain and get at the mother lode. So what you have to do is keep on panning and panning, picking up a little nugget here and a bit of gold dust there, and then you go into town and come back with dynamite and tools and heavy machinery and some miners you’ve hired, you sink a proper shaft and then you can access the main gold supply. That is realistically how we are going to have to break out of the bubble.
We have to get as much of the existing racially conscious community as we can on board. We must get as many as we can to relocate here to the Homeland to form our baseline of active crews in all our major areas, get that all important ten dollars a month in Party dues off them so we can finance a movement, and then we have the human and financial and material resources available to force our way into the mainstream by doing responsible things to gather responsible and serious media publicity, but which can only be done with people and with money.
Are you with me so far? Missionary work among the Muggles is fine, I certainly don’t want to discourage that, but realistically we have to begin by accessing the hard core of 30,000 or so people who are already racially aware, so that we can get our first “leg up.” Yes, especially financially. We need to stop being embarrassed or reluctant to speak of such things; money is vitally important, and all 30,000 of those people are potential contributors.
Nordvest Verboten
I myself am banned from posting on almost all of these major VBulletin boards, usually because back in the 1990s I dared to criticize someone’s favorite guru. You have to bear in mind that the Movement lacks any concept of legitimate dissent or disagreement, that among us everything is always personal, and that among us the slightest criticism usually means a lifelong vendetta, which the internet of course lends itself to.
The one notable exception to this, if I dare mention it for fear of breaking the good luck charm, has been New Saxon.org. I have to say that the webmasters there have been completely fair and shown great comradeship and White solidarity to me and to all the Northwest Front people who post there, in spite of the pressure which has been brought against them by the Goat Dancers. I really appreciate the courtesy and the assistance New Saxon.org has shown to me and to all of our Party people.
However, a number of our NF comrades have attempted to use other boards and forums in order to tell people about the party, to discuss the Northwest novels, to post the URL to our website and so on, and they haven’t been treated nearly so well. In many cases the owners and the moderators are implacably hostile to the Northwest, either because they have some 1990s beef with me personally, or else because they view us, quite correctly, as competition.
They are afraid of losing their little internet empires where the wheels constantly spin round and round and no one gets anywhere. They are afraid their people will be irresistibly attracted to the genuine and workable idea of a Northwest Republic. These Lords of the Internet are terrified that the Northwest idea will catch on, and that we will succeed in pulling the Movement off the internet and back into the real world and away from them, their egos, and their little orbit. And they’re right. Someday we will.
Until then, the Lords of the Internet either refuse to approve posts from Northwest Front people, they refuse to publish the links to northwestfront.org and northwestrepublic.com, they edit and tamper with people’s posts, or they just plain kick our people off the board the minute they mention the novels or identify themselves Northwest separatists. Don’t worry, I won’t name the offending boards because when I name names everybody gets upset and they start weeping that Harold is “attacking people” and “fighting feuds” again.
But it gets worse.
There are other forums around the internet such as blogs that allow comments, and sometimes those comments can develop into full blown debates. A phenomenon has developed where NF comrades appear to be getting followed and stalked around the internet, by what appears to be three or four specific people, although they hide behind sock puppets a lot. They presumably find any pro-Northwest posts or threads using search engines or packet-sniffing software, and anywhere our guys attempt to post anything favorable about the NF or the Northwest novels, all of a sudden the Goat Dance breaks out and it’s a bunch of idiots shouting abuse at me and against the Northwest idea.
The reason I can tell this is actual stalking is that I’m starting to recognize some of the scripts; the same standard phrases, expressions and responses over and over, sometimes verbatim from one site to another but under different names, that kind of thing.
On March the 10th of this year, an especially disgraceful and egregious example of this took place. I have to admit I was right in the middle of it, and that was very much my mistake. I allowed myself to be suckered into an internet discussion in the comments section of a web site that is supposed to be respectable, if that word can be applied to any of our sites, but which was at least supposed to be run by serious and mature men. Yet I found myself in the White internet version of ambush TV when the Goat Dance broke out. It was kind of like being invited to go on Meet The Press and finding yourself on the Jerry Springer show instead.
Okay, like I said, that one was my bad, and I shouldn’t have fallen for it, but something happened on that occasion that really gets me to thinking paranoid and conspiratorial thoughts.
Without getting into specifics, since like I said, I know people get all upset when I name names and discuss details, one of the moderators on that March 10th site--a man who, to the best of my knowledge, I have never met, at least not under that name, leveled a specific accusation against me, which was a lie, pure and simple. An accusation which he knew perfectly well was a lie, which he had to know was a lie, because I just plain did not do the thing he accused me of, and there is therefore no way he could have had the so-called evidence he claimed he had. You have to understand, there is no possibility of an honest mistake here.
Now, this puzzles me. Why would someone do something like that, to someone he does not know and has never met, and who has never (so far as I know) offended him personally? Maybe I am giving in to the very paranoia I decry in my Radio Free Northwest podcasts, but for real, guys, I sense a hidden agenda here.
I understand where most of this anti-Covington crap comes from, who it’s coming from and why. It mostly comes from the 1990s when I made a practice of analyzing and criticizing the behavior of three specific Movement gurus, two of whom are now dead and one of whom is rotting away on some remote farm in Indiana. Those gurus still have their cult followers today and they can’t forgive me because I refused to bow down and kiss their gurus’ rings, or whatever else they wanted kissed.
Okay, those guys I get, and yes, sometimes it’s them who follow me all over the internet hollering and screaming and cackling. I think it’s silly and childish for them to do that, but I know who they are, and I get it.
But this other, this that’s been happening since August when we got our own web site up…this is starting to look like something else. I have noticed in past years that any time the Northwest idea does in fact make a step or two forward, one Induhvidual specifically suddenly makes his appearance, sometimes after years of silence, almost like he’s being deployed. Sure enough, there he was on March 10th, screaming like a howler monkey.
“Cognitive Dissonance”
It’s definitely some kind of seminar or scripted stalking program. Now, some of you may remember an article I posted several months ago on the Thoughtcrime blog about a Jewish White House official named Cass Sunstein and a program he has developed for controlling the internet called “cognitive dissonance,” wherein any internet discussions or web sites or topics that the White House disapproves of, like the Obama birther movement for example, is disrupted by a stream of constant niggling, off-topic, digressive, gossipy and scandalous posts that divert people’s attention away from the main subject at hand and cause the thread or the site to lose cohesion and focus and dwindle off into irrelevancy. Some people have asked me if that’s what might be going on here. I don’t know. Maybe.
But the fact remains that on these major VBulletin boards and other forums, the Northwest Front and the Northwest imperative simply is not getting a fair shake. We are not getting the access to those 30,000 hard-core racial White Nationalists that we should, and it is starting to seriously hold us back. Which is no doubt the intention.
Now, we can’t really do much about this dog in the manger behavior per se. Those boards belong to their owners, and any hacking we might to do try and force them to give us an even break is probably illegal, although it was done once when Billy Roper grabbed VNN from Alex Linder and managed to kick Glenn Miller and all his butt buddies off the board for a couple of weeks. Then for some reason Roper eventually handed VNN back to Linder, and back swaggered Miller and his toadies. But I digress.
Finally!
Okay, don’t worry, I’m finally coming to the point.
We can’t force these people to treat us fairly and let us draw water from the well. We have to find a workaround. Bluntly, what we must do is cross-drill them.
We have to develop our own lines of communication directly to the racially conscious and hard conservative community, bypassing the big VBulletin boards and their hostile owners and moderators. We have to be able to speak directly and without censorship or intervention from either Cass Sunstein’s cognitive dissonance internet operatives, or from our own idiots, to as many of the 30,000 racially aware people on those boards and forums as we can.
What I want you guys to do is as follows: I want e-mail addresses. As many as you can find.
*National Socialist
*Klan
*Council of Conservative Citizens
*Kevin McDonald-style racist intellectual
*Christian anti-faggot
*Second Amendment
*Obama birther and other conspiracy
*Militia
*American Renaissance
*Tea Party
*John Birch Society
*Skinhead
*Any National Alliance that’s left
*Billy Roper-ites
Anything else you can find.
*Klan
*Council of Conservative Citizens
*Kevin McDonald-style racist intellectual
*Christian anti-faggot
*Second Amendment
*Obama birther and other conspiracy
*Militia
*American Renaissance
*Tea Party
*John Birch Society
*Skinhead
*Any National Alliance that’s left
*Billy Roper-ites
Anything else you can find.
You all know the racial boards and forums I am referring to, I’m sure. Scour them for any kind of e-mail address that would allow direct access to the posters. Go to every racial web site and blog you can find and send me any kind of direct e-mail address you can find.
Yes, I know, there will be paranoid wing-nuts who scream “Harold is asking for addresses! He’s a fed, he’s a spy, yaaaaaahhhh gobble gobble gooble goo….” Screw those morons. The Party has to communicate with White people, and for that I need to know where our own are. Does anyone here really think the FBI and DHS don’t have our e-mail addresses already? Ever heard of Echelon? The FBI knows who we are, but we don’t, and we can’t communicate with one another until we do.
And yes, I’m going to spam them now and again. Don’t worry, I won’t be sending them 50 e-mails idea like I was selling Viagra or meds from Canadian pharmacies.
Our goal is to assemble the biggest communication network in the Movement, if possible bigger than all the cumulative VBulletin board membership put together and overlapping with that membership so the Party can post to those people without filtering our message through the hostile boards and without being at the mercy of the hostile and in some cased deranged or deliberately suborned moderators.
Eventually, when the Northwest Front speaks, I want the whole Movement to listen. I want them to listen directly to the voice of the Party, without noise and static from some cackling freak hiding in a cave in Tennessee—or some government cognitive dissonance operative hiding behind a computer in some cubicle in Washington DC who is pretending to be the cackling freak in Tennessee.
Come on, guys. I think you can envision what I’m talking about. Help me out here.