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  • #16
    http://mamzers.org/forum2/showthread...=3653#post3653


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    • #17
      We need to coontemplate We'z anuses some more

      We need to coontemplate We'z anuses some more


      http://whitenationalisr.org/forum/sh...=3665#post3665
      http://www.counter-currents.com/2011.../#comment-6457



      Ex Pro White Activist

      Mr. Covington,

      First I want to address your principal points one by one. Afterward we can dive into the meat of what really constitutes ?white community?, ?white independence? and ?white self-determination?.

      My strongest objection is you are ? and very intentionally ? confusing regained white self-determination and degrees of independence with the limited Northwest Republic & Migration scheme in the white public mind. Therefore to shoot down all concepts of self-determination in any form it is only necessary to target the NW Plan sitting duck.

      This TOQ article is the most recent example of what happens when the Butler Plan becomes the poster child for White Independence:

      http://www.toqonline.com/blog/secession-is-a-bad-idea/

      Mr. Baird Peterson adduced a host of cogent reasons arguing against the NW Scheme. But in his mind and his readers? minds these objections extend to all forms of secession and enhanced independence. We are merely left with TOQ?s racially tinged Republican Conservatism.

      In these circumstances I think it is incumbent upon you to either answer Mr. Peterson?s objections or admit that the NW plan is not the only possibility.

      I. The White race in North America is in danger of literal, physical extinction.?

      Agreed. Stop. What are the causes of this? Until we conduct a detailed examination of the causes of this it is impossible to consider possible cures.

      Nevertheless, precisely how does the Butler-Matthews-Covington plan address this? Part of The NW Plan in its present form includes a subdued call for a renewed Order/IRA style insurgency campaign to establish some form of political independence.

      For three decades there has been a background thought in the non-movement. This is the idea that if The Order had had 10 times as many members and cells as it did, and had these operators used better tradecraft and fieldcraft, then they could have succeeded in sparking a revolutionary guerrilla insurgency. The seductive part is that this conclusion might well be true. But only for the circumstances of 1983. And unfortunately we don?t have a Doc Brown style DeLorean time machine we can use to alter events.

      In my professional opinion the march of time and technology has doomed such an illegal scheme to early practical defeat. But even if it could succeed the tactics you have outlined guarantee it will be a very protracted war. This is the nature of low intensity conflict. I think it?s a certainty that white birthrates in the theater of operations would further decline during this period (7 years. 10 years? 20 years?) of low intensity warfare.

      ?II. We as a people ? refused to recognize the urgent need for state power in order to preserve the existence of our race."

      We are discussing independent sovereignty here. Many racial subgroups have existed for centuries to millenia without having it. The Kurds, Chechens, southern European Slavs and Czechs all come to mind.

      But lets dive in. In the nuclear industrial era real independent sovereignty has two mandatory prerequisites:

      1. The secure possession of a nuclear strike force that can survive a first strike in sufficient condition to inflict unacceptable damage on the enemy in a counterstrike. This means more than one warhead and even more than 20 warheads.

      2. 100% fuels and energy independence.

      How does the NW Front intend to satisfy these conditions?

      III. There is only one strategy remaining to us

      Only one? This is an extraordinary claim. In engineering and the sciences such claims have the burden of producing extraordinary proof. Would you please produce it?

      IV. Considerations of demographics, economics

      These need far more specificity. For my part I say the demographics are completely wrong. The whites in Oregon and Washington are the original Deep Blue state SWPL folks for the most part. And the ?economics? are virtually non-existent.

      and a history of commitment and martyrdom in the persons of Bob Matthews, Sam and Vicky Weaver, and Richard Butler dictate that the territory for this sovereign Aryan republic must lie in the Pacific Northwest.

      This is a rhetorical appeal to emotion.

      These people may deserve the dedication of memorial roads, bridges, government buildings, parks and holidays after Victory. At the present time these names only call for brutally candid after action reviews to ensure the demonstrated mistakes are never repeated. They do not provide a single reason to copy what demonstrably can be disastrous tactics.

      V. The first step towards the establishment of the Northwest American Republic

      Our real history has been so buried by the Jew?s agit-prop that it?s apparently now forgotten that the earliest English settlements in Virginia and Massachusetts experienced high rates of starvation and death. This was entirely due to the poor preparation of the colonists to establish real self-sufficiency. The first step is for would-be independent whites to learn materially useful vocational skills as individuals.

      XPWA

      Last edited by Librarian; 04-24-2011, 03:27 PM.
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      • #18
        We'z going to Mars via jewranus

        We'z going to Mars via jewranus



        http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...ted=1#post3669
        http://www.counter-currents.com/2011.../#comment-6465


        Fourmyle of Ceres

        In reply to XPWA:

        You wrote:
        Mr. Covington,

        First I want to address your principal points one by one. Afterward we can dive into the meat of what really constitutes ?white community?, ?white independence? and ?white self-determination?.

        My strongest objection is you are ? and very intentionally ? confusing regained white self-determination and degrees of independence with the limited Northwest Republic & Migration scheme in the white public mind. Therefore to shoot down all concepts of self-determination in any form it is only necessary to target the NW Plan sitting duck.

        In reply:
        There?s no ?confusion? about what Mr. Covington has done.

        ?White self-determination and independence? are not conflated solely with the Northwest Republic.

        Rather, the Northwest Republic is a symbolic shorthand for the best possible tool to deal with what ends ?white self-determination and independence? would best, indeed necessarily, support.

        You can be as strong a supporter of ?white self-determination and independence? on any street corner in South Central, or Compton, and it will bear bitter fruit.

        Why?

        Because social growth requires a social order; white social growth requires a white social order, and ONLY the Northwest Republic is formed explicitly, from its inception, to serve the best interests of the White Race, and ONLY the best interests of the White Race.

        You wrote:
        This TOQ article is the most recent example of what happens when the Butler Plan becomes the poster child for White Independence:

        http://www.toqonline.com/blog/secession-is-a-bad-idea/

        Mr. Baird Peterson adduced a host of cogent reasons arguing against the NW Scheme. But in his mind and his readers? minds these objections extend to all forms of secession and enhanced independence. We are merely left with TOQ?s racially tinged Republican Conservatism.

        In these circumstances I think it is incumbent upon you to either answer Mr. Peterson?s objections or admit that the NW plan is not the only possibility.

        In reply:
        Under Dr. Johnson?s astute administration, we do not do board wars here.

        Baird can come over here on his own, and speak for himself.

        You wrote:
        I. The White race in North America is in danger of literal, physical extinction.?

        Agreed. Stop. What are the causes of this? Until we conduct a detailed examination of the causes of this it is impossible to consider possible cures.

        In reply:
        Asked and answered, particularly in reference to Immigration Reform Act of 1965, the open support of the Reconquista by the State, and the cultural warfare that aided and abetted the demoralization of the White Race.

        You wrote:
        Nevertheless, precisely how does the Butler-Matthews-Covington plan address this? Part of The NW Plan in its present form includes a subdued call for a renewed Order/IRA style insurgency campaign to establish some form of political independence.

        In reply:
        You just shifted topics midway through that paragraph.

        To answer the relevant question of the preceding paragraph, the Northwest Republic will not have illegal immigration, the inverted immigration act of 1965 will not have force, and the cultural war that led to the demoralization of our young, family-creating families will not have grounds to stand on, as they will be counter programmed, and parents will be able to afford to have families.

        The hidden costs that work against family formation, such as DINK?s ? double income no kids ? buying up the most desirable housing closest to the ?good? schools ? will be removed.

        You wrote:
        For three decades there has been a background thought in the non-movement. This is the idea that if The Order had 10 times as many members and cells as it did, and had these operators used better tradecraft and fieldcraft, then they could have succeeded in sparking a revolutionary guerrilla insurgency. The seductive part is that this conclusion might well be true. But only for the circumstances of 1983. And unfortunately we don?t have a Doc Brown style DeLorean time machine we can use to alter events.

        In reply:
        The only person who thought The Order might be able to spark a guerilla style insurgency was the ONLY person who thought The Order might be able to spark a guerilla style insurgency.

        Per Dr. Johnson?s ground rules, I won?t mention names.

        Per common sense, I shouldn?t have to.

        You wrote:
        In my professional opinion the march of time and technology has doomed such an illegal scheme to early practical defeat. But even if it could succeed the tactics you have outlined guarantee it will be a very protracted war. This is the nature of low intensity conflict. I think it?s a certainty that white birthrates in the theater of operations would further decline during this period (7 years. 10 years? 20 years?) of low intensity warfare.

        In reply:
        Again, as Mr. Covington has observed, the threat or use of force in his novel s, his works of fiction, are just that ? fiction, and any resemblance to any living person is purely coincidental.

        Note that such use of force as is mentioned in Mr. Covington?s use of fiction is defensive in nature; never do the NW people initiate the use of force.

        Note further that low-intensity conflict is the most effective form of conflict, over time, as the Cultural War has demonstrated. Control the words, control the pictures, and you control the Mind.

        Make a safe place where none may make afraid, and women will welcome the opportunity to be mothers.

        You wrote:
        ?II. We as a people ? refused to recognize the urgent need for state power in order to preserve the existence of our race.

        We are discussing independent sovereignty here. Many racial subgroups have existed for centuries to millenia without having it. The Kurds, Chechens, southern European Slavs and Czechs all come to mind.


        In reply:
        ?Survive,? yes, but flourish, Do Better, build Civilization, reach for the Stars?

        No.

        We can, and must, Do Better, MUCH DAMN BETTER.

        You wrote:
        But lets dive in. In the nuclear industrial era real independent sovereignty has two mandatory prerequisites:

        1. The secure possession of a nuclear strike force that can survive a first strike in sufficient condition to inflict unacceptable damage on the enemy in a counterstrike. This means more than one warhead and even more than 20 warheads.

        2. 100% fuels and energy independence.

        How does the NW Front intend to satisfy these conditions?

        In reply:
        Concerning weapons, there are sources of military power, exclusive of atomic weapons, that are much more effective, and much cheaper. The most casual review of military blogs/national security blogs might be useful in putting together a working hypothesis.

        There are enough damn fools thinking in just such terms tonight, even as we speak.

        I will not discuss such matters.

        Neither should you.

        Concerning energy, in addition to geothermal and solar, the Northwest offers the most efficient energy source of all, clean hydro, and particularly, clean microhydro.

        Note that there are all manner of dams throughout the Northwest Republic, of all sizes, and very few of them are set up for hydroelectric production. Simple conversion of them, particularly those near the end of their construction life, is a matter of simple engineering. There is a LOT of cheap, clean energy to be had this way. the useful life of the new dams (and roads, by the way) would be enhanced by decades by the use of SuperCrete; concrete mixed with fly ash, a waste product of industrial incinerators. This would add about 5% to the cost of construction, and would extend the lifetime of the finished projects by decades, lowering capital costs and replacement costs dramatically.

        Triple bottom line thinking, and triple plus good!

        And, in time, Hyperion reactors could generate heat and power for small communities. Being modular, and inherently safe, they are ideal, as are Toshiba 4S reactors. Additionally, Thorium has already been demonstrated as a feasible reactor power source by Rickover more than half a century ago.

        All of this is after adopting the superinsulation standards for residential and commercial construction.

        Monolithic domes would also work very well.

        You wrote:
        III. There is only one strategy remaining to us
        Only one? This is an extraordinary claim. In engineering and the sciences such claims have the burden of producing extraordinary proof. Would you please produce it?

        In reply:
        We are still looking for anything better.

        If you find it, do let us know.

        You can start using it in South Central, and expand to Compton.

        Call us when you make it to Los Angeles, new capital of Alta California, home of the Reconquista.

        You wrote:
        IV. Considerations of demographics, economics
        These need far more specificity. For my part I say the demographics are completely wrong. The whites in Oregon and Washington are the original Deep Blue state SWPL folks for the most part. And the ?economics? are virtually non-existent.

        In reply:
        I suspect that, for some people, there will never be enough ?specificity.?

        Fine.

        The Deep Blue people will change fairly quickly, as the world that made Deep Blue possible implodes, causing not Deep Red, but Deep RIGHT, to come forward.

        Families change everything.

        As for economic feasibility, the ?economics? are there, particularly from a resource based perspective.

        See the energy example I gave above, and note that a modern economy requires cheap energy, and a lot of it.

        The Northwest has it, and it scales very well, too!

        You wrote:
        and a history of commitment and martyrdom in the persons of Bob Matthews, Sam and Vicky Weaver, and Richard Butler dictate that the territory for this sovereign Aryan republic must lie in the Pacific Northwest.
        This is a rhetorical appeal to emotion.

        These people may deserve the dedication of memorial roads, bridges, government buildings, parks and holidays after Victory. At the present time these names only call for brutally candid after action reviews to ensure the demonstrated mistakes are never repeated. They do not provide a single reason to copy what demonstrably can be disastrous tactics.

        In reply:
        Point well taken, and they do require us to look at the first issue to be discussed in the after-action review ? we will even use 5 part paragraphs if you like.

        What they all had in common is that they all took for granted the Government would play by their understanding of The Rules.

        The loss of Robert Mathews is particularly tragic, and it is our duty for it to be particularly educational.

        Again, the example of VNN/F?s ?Hugh,? in the ?A World View? thread, is illuminating.

        On the other hand, those who look to the South look to a past that never really was, and a track record of bitter failure, all the more so now that the boundary of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo have now been Reconquered.

        Focus Northwest ? focus on a better, brighter Future!

        More on Mathews before this thread is finished.

        You wrote:
        V. The first step towards the establishment of the Northwest American Republic

        Our real history has been so buried by the Jew?s agit-prop that it?s apparently now forgotten that the earliest English settlements in Virginia and Massachusetts experienced high rates of starvation and death. This was entirely due to the poor preparation of the colonists to establish real self-sufficiency. The first step is for would-be independent whites to learn materially useful vocational skills as individuals.

        In reply:
        See the thread by VNN/F?s ?Hugh,? A Better World.?

        The foundation of the Northwest Republic will be the development of a critical mass of Better People, who started where they were, and made something of themselves.

        It was only after enough of these people got together and Did Something, that the Longview Conference took place.

        The Mars Colony took a bit longer.


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        • #19
          Northwest Debate with Cunthair WallAss

          Northwest Debate with Cunthair WallASS



          http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=3674#post3674
          http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...thwest-debate/




          Lardball with Hunter Wallace

          Northwest Republic

          Some commentators over at Counter-Currents have been taking potshots at Harold Covington in the Northwest Migration debate.

          Unsurprisingly, Greg Johnson has been censoring the comments for nothing but softballs can be thrown at Herr Covington.

          How about we play a round of hardball? The discussion over there has gotten a little boring. I want to see a real game.

          (1) Demographically, the Pacific Northwest is not the lily White paradise that Harold Covington has made it out to be – Here are the latest numbers from the 2010 Census:

          Washington: 74.6 percent White.

          Oregon: 79.6 percent White.

          Idaho: 84.5 percent White.

          For the record, the whitest states in America are: #1. Maine, #2. Vermont, #3. West Virginia, #4. New Hampshire, #5. Iowa, #6. North Dakota, #7. Montana, #8. Kentucky, #9. Wyoming, and #10. Idaho.

          … #11. South Dakota, #12. Minnesota, #13. Wisconsin, #14. Nebraska, #15. Indiana.

          In Canada, Nova Scotia is 92 percent White, Newfoundland and Labrador are 97 percent White, New Brunswick is 97 percent White, Prince Edward Island is 98 percent White, and Quebec is 95 percent White.

          By comparison, Arkansas is 75.1 percent White, Kentucky is 87.2 percent White, Missouri is 81.8 percent White, Tennessee is 76.5 percent White, Indiana is 82.7 percent White, Minnesota is 84.8 percent White, and Wisconsin is 84.6 percent White.

          The Pacific Northwest isn’t anymore White than the typical Northern state. Washington and Oregon are less White than Missouri and Iowa.

          (2) Ideologically, Washington and Oregon are Blue States dominated by the SWPL population that lives in the Ecotopia sub-nation that stretches along the Pacific Coast. - “The Pacific Northwest” is bisected into two distinct sub-regions by the Cascade Mountains: Ecotopia and Empty Corridor.

          Portland and Seattle have far more in common with San Francisco and Vancouver than the region east of the Cascades. Boise and Couer d’Alene are more like Cheyenne and Helena than the Left Coast.

          In terms of racial demographics, Washington (74.6 percent) and Oregon (79.1 percent) are about the same as Tennessee (76.5 percent) and Arkansas (75.1 percent), but with the crucial difference that the Whites who live there are more “liberal” and “moderate.”

          Tennessee: 43.6 percent (conservative), 35.6 percent (moderate), 15.9 percent (liberal)

          Arkansas: 45.0 percent (conservative), 36.4 percent (moderate), 14.7 percent (liberal).

          Washington: 33.1 percent (conservative), 37.3 percent (moderate), 25.9 percent (liberal).

          Oregon: 34.5 (conservative), 35.3 percent (moderate), 26.3 percent (liberal).

          “The Pacific Northwest” concept looks especially silly when you throw Idaho into the mix.

          Idaho: 48.5 percent (conservative), 34.5 percent (moderate), and 14.9 percent (liberal).

          Idaho is the second most conservative state in America. It is wedged between Mississippi and Alabama. The state is far more like Wyoming and Montana than Western Oregon and Washington.

          It is Empty Corridor.

          (3) White Nationalists don’t have the numbers to compete with SWPLs in the Pacific Northwest – This is so obvious that it surprising the debate even continues past this point.

          If every White Nationalist and sympathizer in the entire United States (250,000 being a generous estimate) moved to the I-5 corridor tomorrow, they would still be dwarfed by the number of SWPLs and non-Whites who live in the Seattle metropolitan area alone (est. 3,344,813).

          In the last three years, 90,000 illegal aliens have moved to Washington and Oregon. Harold Covington’s worldwide audience isn’t anywhere close to that figure.

          Tellingly, he refuses to release his settlement numbers. White Nationalists are a drop in this sea of White liberalism.

          (4) The Northwest Imperative isn’t a new idea – Harold proudly calls the Northwest Imperative the Butler Plan.

          What he doesn’t say is that Pastor Richard Butler, now deceased, and the Aryan Nations have been active in the Pacific Northwest since the early 1970s. When Butler died, the Aryan Nations had lost its headquarters in a SPLC lawsuit and had a worldwide membership of less than 300 people.

          So, in other words, Richard Butler tried for 40 years to get White Nationalists to move to the Pacific Northwest, and for whatever reason they refused to respond to his call, unlike the 90,000 illegal aliens and the millions of SWPLs who have moved there in recent years, altering its political demography in a negative way.

          (5) The Pacific Northwest isn’t any different from any other part of the country – Case in point, the SPLC lawsuit that bankrupted the Aryan Nations and resulted in the loss of their headquarters.

          There is effectively no difference between hiding out in a bunker in Idaho and hiding out in grandma’s basement in Pennsylvania or Florida. The federal government has just as much power there as it does anywhere else.

          (6) The Pacific Northwest has been sanctified by the blood of martyrs – Every single one of these episodes discredits Harold’s plan of resorting to violence.

          - The White population of the Pacific Northwest didn’t shed any tears over The Order.

          - The Order was sold out by the likes of Glenn Miller.

          - The Order members have bitterly complained about being forgotten by the White Nationalist movement after they went to prison.

          - The FBI adapted and changed its tactics following Ruby Ridge and Waco.

          - Richard Butler was unable to form a successful White Nationalist colony in the region.

          - No one but White Nationalists care about the Edgar Steele trial.

          - Groups like the Montana Freemen were snuffed out by the FBI and ATF.

          Let’s not forget: Joe Snuffy’s little backpack bomb in Spokane was hardly a rallying cry for the oppressed Whites of the Pacific Northwest. Quite the opposite.

          If that bomb had detonated in the MLK parade, it would have ignited a huge backlash against White Nationalists living in the region, and Obama would have milked it like Clinton did with the Oklahoma City bombing.

          It is a great example of the difference between fiction and non-fiction: in reality, law enforcement agencies like the FBI are not clumsy and inept, but are quite efficient at sending fools like Joe Snuffy to prison.

          (7) The whole idea of a guerrilla war against the U.S. federal government is a fantasy – Let’s see Harold put on a uniform and lead the charge himself. He doesn’t even really believe his own bullshit. That is why he always includes disclaimers (i.e., this is fiction only) in his podcasts.

          The U.S. military has decades of experience in fighting and beating insurgencies like the Iraq insurgency. There are now less than 100 al-Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan.

          Think about it: the U.S. military defeated an insurgency in Iraq in the heart of the Islamic world. Do you think the U.S. military can’t defeat Harold Covington, Craig Cobb, and Joe Snuffy in Washington State?

          How much easier would it be for the U.S. military to operate within the United States instead of projecting overwhelming force on the other side of the planet?

          (8) The collapse will take care of all our problems – White Nationalists have been saying that since George Lincoln Rockwell predicted the collapse would come in 1969 and that he would be elected president in 1972. Every year the long awaited “collapse of the system” never comes.

          The Roman Empire collapsed in 1453 AD.

          (9) White Nationalists are too heterogeneous to accomplish anything – George Lincoln Rockwell, for example, was assassinated by one of his own followers.

          Adolf Hitler was a National Socialist, but he sold his product as a German nationalist to millions of other Germans who hated democracy and the terms of the Versailles Treaty, and they only turned to him as a last resort in light of the alternative.

          Harold Covington only believes that 1,000 or so White Nationalists can plant themselves in the middle of the I-5 corridor and, surrounded by millions of SWPLs in Portland and Seattle, can create an entire nation from scratch, defeat the U.S. military on its own soil, and convert the liberal and moderate population of the Pacific Northwest to National Socialism through, I guess, talking about the martyrdom of Edgar Steele on Radio Free Northwest.

          (10) Harold doesn’t have a communication strategy – What do you do about the locals? Don’t worry.

          Harold has a “massive outreach strategy” (which is what?) up his sleeve. Evangelizing the public can wait until after you have made the transformative life decision to uproot yourself and move there.

          It is easy to denounce conservatives for their various failings. Thinking realistically though, you have to have some type of strategy for winning over 1/3 of the people who live in Washington and Oregon, and 1/2 of the people who live in Idaho.

          Do you suppose ridicule will work? Setting off bombs? If so, where is the evidence that Neo-Nazi terrorists setting off bombs works? Is that what we saw in Spokane?

          Hell, what did setting off bombs even accomplish in Ireland?

          (11) Pointing to Empty Corridor isn’t much of an argument – Granted, the area east of the Cascades is conservative, but that is because of the population density of the region. Eastern Washington and Oregon are politically dominated by the Left Coast.

          If you are going to uproot yourself and move to the Northwest, why wouldn’t you move to somewhere like Wyoming or Idaho?

          I’ve already pointed out that those states (Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North and South Dakota) are more conservative, more White, have favorable tax rates and land prices, and that settlers would have more of an impact there because of the smaller population.

          (12) We need a metapolitical revolution – Some White Nationalists have a naive faith in the power of ideas.

          Isn’t it amusing how the people who subscribe to those ideas seem to spend the majority of their time (a.) fighting with each other, (b.) navel-gazing over obscure intellectuals, and (c.) posting essays and comments in circle jerks on the internet?

          The “power of ideas” can be seen in the Northwest Imperative debate: the vast majority of the anonymous people who listen to Harold Covington and agree with his ideas are just entertaining themselves for the lulz.

          They have no intention of actually moving to the Pacific Northwest. How is that any different from watching American Idol on television? It is just another way to pass the time.

          These intellectuals always approach every problem in an abstract way: for example, we need a “White ethnostate,” which is a generic model that doesn’t refer to any specific place; we need to build a “community,” which doesn’t refer to any specific community, only to an abstract ideal of one; we need a “homeland,” which is also a concept, not a place; we need a “myth,” which doesn’t refer to anything substantial.

          No one but intellectuals appreciate these elaborate ideological sand castles. White people are not going to unite on the basis of a proposition nation.

          The neocons and libertarians are also wrong on that score.

          (13) We can use bombs to drive out the White liberals – Joe Snuffy of VNN Forum was dumb enough to take that idea seriously. Rachel Maddow used the Spokane bomb as fodder to polarize Whites against White Nationalists.

          (14) After moving to the Pacific Northwest, White Nationalists can tutor the natives in White racial consciousness – Does the Pacific Northwest have some kind of secret sauce?

          Are the people who live there unfamiliar with the Aryan Nations? Why would the same tactics which have failed elsewhere succeed there?

          (15) A skeleton in the costume of a fantasy world – That’s Harold Covington’s contribution to White Nationalism.

          He took an abstract model and wove a fantasy world around it. The Northwest Republic is Star Wars or Star Trek for White Nationalists. It is no more real than the United Federation of Planets.

          (16) Harold plays good music – Well, I can’t win every argument. So let’s concede that point.

          Personally, I like that “Rising of the Moon” song – it’s catchy, but it is about Ireland, not the Pacific Northwest, as are most of the other tunes in Harold’s repertoire, which he uses as metaphors for revolutionary struggle … something twice removed from the original source.

          What do the American sub-nations really sound like? These songs well up from the roots of a people.

          This one is more Northwesty:


          This one is more California:


          This one is more Empty Corridor:

          This one is more Heartland:


          This one is more Dixie:


          This one is more Foundry:


          This one is more South Florida:

          You can listen to Skynyrd, Bruce Springsteen, and George Strait and really get the sense that they are capturing something essential about the people who live in those areas, their environment, and way of seeing the world.

          They tap into something that goes way beyond grievances and abstractions – hence, their enduring popularity and resonance with millions of ordinary White people.

          What is the White Nationalist equivalent of that? Jamming away with Irish metaphors about a proposition nation?

          Sorry, but that doesn’t bring the house down like George Strait in Kansas City. It is not even close to a substitute.

          (17) What’s YOUR solution – This suggests there is a solution. Maybe there isn’t one. White people will respond to their racial predicament in different ways.

          The vast majority of White people are unwilling to uproot themselves for ideological reasons. They are even less willing to throw away their lives for an ideology. I can tell you that much.

          “White Zionists,” racialists who vote with their feet, are a minority of White Nationalists. Personally, I think the people who share that mindset should move to Empty Corridor and try to imitate the Mormons or Amish.

          Maybe they could have an impact on the state level in a place like Wyoming or Montana. Alternatively, they could stay put where they are and think more about what makes their corner of America distinct.

          Posted on April 17, 2011 by Hunter Wallace



          The quality of people I am reaching is much higher than I ever did with a forum.
          I'm now at the top of the racialist intellectual community in the United States.
          I was a nobody when I ran The Phora.

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          • #20
            Helping Euro-Americans Reclaim Their Land And National Destiny

            Helping Euro-Americans Reclaim Their Land And National Destiny



            http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...ted=1#post3718
            http://www.counter-currents.com/2011.../#comment-7295


            I enjoyed reading Harold’s Northwest Quartet series. It certainly portrays a gritty scenario of modern-day revolution in America.

            Nonetheless, I believe that any such objective to wrest control of this country from our multiculturalist captors must go beyond fiction (I write books too) and aggressively penetrate the mainstream culture of American life. By this, I assert that any successful WN victory must first begin by establishing real-world infrastructures where whites can gather, communicate, and initiate – and do so as openly as the SPLC or a McDonald’s does now. And it must be willing to do so even under the threat of constant physical violence, moral outrage, and legal intimidation.

            No, the National Alliance will not do this. Rallies, yes. But – beyond that – they simply remain too sequestered and too mysterious to be of any lasting effectiveness or appeal to the general white American public. Nor will the gentlemen’s clubs that we all know and love, such as the Council of Conservative Citizens, American Renaissance, V-Dare, et al, – or any of these other upscale WN suit-and-tie luncheon warriors. Talk, yes. Promulgate great ideas, sure. Sign books, why not! But actually save us?

            Well – no.

            And finally, neither can the Boys from Brazil (NSM, Bill White, Alex Linder, Matt Hale, etc) make a lick of headway. “Rounder” might, if we turned him loose in an M1-A1 battle tank. But fire just one TOW missile up his armored butt and his little white revolution would be all she wrote.

            So, what’s the answer, then?

            Well, who can say without some sliver of doubt? I certainly can’t. Then again, I do believe this: we are not ready for armed conflict.

            Instead, I wish to propose some of the concepts, ideas, and strategies that I formulated some years ago, under the acronym of HEARTLAND. For those of you who are unaware, it stands for: Helping Euro-Americans Reclaim Their Land And National Destiny.

            HEARTLAND is, at least in some ways, born of the same flesh and blood as the Northwest Imperative. It differs, however, in that it does not require a mass Exodus (tip of the hat there to Leon Uris) to one region of the country. Instead, it seeks to build a unified white nationalist network of recruitment /social centers across the states. (“Yay, even unto the wicked lands of blackest America shall the white man go!” Leviticus 14:88) With hard work and the courage of our beliefs (and money!) this kind of project can be accomplished.

            Finally, I wish not to start a “war” here. I simply understand what Harold understands – that the time for action (some sort of action!) has come – nay, is long overdue – and the election of America’s first black president is the surest sign that the End Times for Whitey draws near. Knowing that to be the case, I would be glad to work with Harold and others, but before any headway can be made, we must first have a transparently-clear plan of action, and it must not be burdened by the failed iconography and symbols of the past.

            So, whether it’s the Northwest Imperative or the concepts I outlined in HEARTLAND – or something else for that matter, no decision on the best road to take can be made – right here. Instead, we need to organize some sort of WN Summit – some WN equivalent of the infamous Bilderberg group, comprised of the very best WN minds we have.

            PS: Read an excerpt of “Hold Back This Day” by clicking my post-link

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            • #21
              Christian Identity Allies of Harold Covington ? And Why

              Christian Identity Allies of Harold Covington — And Why



              http://www.counter-currents.com/2011.../#comment-7342
              http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=3719#post3719
              http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...comment-215784


              Christian Identity holds that White people are the ‘lost’ ten (actually thirteen) tribes of Israel. The Dual-Seedline variant holds that there are two seed-lines, one good, through Adam-Noah-Abraham-Isaac-Jacob/Israel line, and the evil jews who are the spawn of Satan through Satan’s seduction of Eve, giving birth to Cain, the first jew. Then through Canaan, the son of Ham and Naamah, Tubal-cain’s sister. The sephardic jews are through Esau-Edom from Esau marrying two Hivite women. The Ashkenazi jews are from the Hittite Canaanites who got scattered by the ancient Galacians/Greeks around 1200 BC through to the Khazars, who got beaten by Prince Vladimir’s grandfather Stanislas around 900 AD. There has been a Genesis 3:15 enmity between the two seedlines for seven thousand years. (Septuagint dating as opposed to Maseortic dating.) The jews have infested the Adamites for 7,000 years and have set up numerous ZOG/Babylons to miscegenate away the Adamic/White race. We are living in ZOG/Babylon the Third — and Final.

              Thus I believe that it will be the Great Tribulation killing 90% of the whiggers, along with all of the jews and muds, which will be the salvation of the Christian Israelite people, not bringing about a Northwest Republic. However, trying for a NW Republic through revolution doesn’t in any way conflict with my religious beliefs because somebody has to rebel against ZOG/Babylon someplace, sometime, and thus Harold’s work doesn’t conflict with DSCI beliefs. ZOG/Babylon must be destroyed.

              So I am an ally of Harold Covington, although I don’t always agree with Harold. We agree 85% of the time and I have no oxen gored by Harold, although I’m not planning to move to the Northwest. I have property in South Dakota, where my family of Swedes originated here in America.

              I’m sort of in between web pages right now, thanks to a dirty little ARA mamzer pretending to be CI, along with two jews pretending to be DSCI pastors.

              I wish Harold would have specified that I live in Southwest Missouri (Granby/Neosho) near Joplin, Kansas, and Oklahoma as opposed to SouthEastern Missouri around Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, and Mississippi. Travelling them secondary roads over 300 miles across the Ozarks is out of the question. However, I am forwarding your message, to a woman who lives in your general area from Harold’s contact list.

              Hail Victory!!!

              Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
              Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
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              • #22
                We Have Officially Arrived

                We Have Officially Arrived


                http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/...y-arrived.html
                http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5702#post5702





                The following review of the Northwest independence novels by Dr. Tom Sunic has been posted to Dr. Kevin McDonald’s Occidental Observer website.

                http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...-2/#more-13659

                We have now officially Arrived.

                -HAC


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                • #23
                  Literature: Harold Covington

                  Literature: Harold Covington
                  Tom Sunic



                  http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...-2/#more-13659
                  http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5703#post5703


                  Let us leave aside the political plausibility or post-historical veracity of Covington’s novels dealing with the war of White independence at the beginning of the 21st century in the Pacific Northwest. What needs to be singled out in Covington’s prose is his language, his ability to construct both real and surreal plots, and above all his skill to administer a good dose of empathy with his diverse characters.

                  And indeed there is a whole gallery of diverse characters in his novels — from disfranchised poor Whites from the South who were once victims of positive discrimination and who have now landed in the embattled Northwest, to ritzy and sold-out WASP politicians in DC, vying to be more Jewish than the Jews themselves. Each of his numerous characters is carefully situated in his own timeframe, each carrying his own clusters of conflicting memories, often haunting him for the rest of his life. Covington, as much as he dissects the mindset of his warring heroes does not just examine their self-proclaimed racial awareness, but focuses instead on their historical consciousness. The reader won’t find characters blaring “White power!” or sporting swastikas, or endlessly debating about the ominous Jews. The frequent monologues by his characters bear witness that their individual memories are seldom sweet. Even in a pristine environment of the Northwest Republic, residents are immersed in their own Shakespearean dilemmas of being vs. not being. In most cases the racial awareness of Covington’s characters is coupled with their reminiscences of the haunting times of bygone eras. Thus, in his latest novel Freedom’s Sons depicting the nascent Northwest Republic, we come across a man who serves as one of the chiefs of the Northwest secret police. But this man has also a past; he is not just an empty White slate. His grandparents, back in the mid-20th century had fled communist Czechoslovakia and settled in the city of Chicago – only to discover another form of paleo-communist aka liberal insanity. Their progeny, the future settlers in the Northwest, realized that in the land of the free and the home of the brave, they were not just subjects to the terror of affirmative action, but also victims of serial burglaries and rampant Black crime. Finally, after much procrastination they decided to move to the Northwest, encountering on their way both physical and psychological roadblocks which in many ways reflected the predicaments they had once encountered in communist Europe.

                  The strength of Covington’s prose lies in his ability to destroy human illusions and wishful thinking about the linear unfolding of time, which seems to be a standard pillar of liberal scholasticism. In this sense Covington’s novels are not just fictional stories dealing with Whites shooting guns, but also philosophical treatises announcing Slow Coming Dark scenes of unimaginable catastrophes awaiting all White people in modern America. Most of his characters, both the White “good guys” and the non-White “bad guys,” are tragic figures who despite the computerized environment they live in, are all well aware of their mutually exclusive racial determinism.

                  The style and the story can often tell a lot about the author himself. Covington is a master of the English language; he successfully interjects into his dialogues slang expressions used by Black or Hispanic characters, as for instance when he briefly depicts the hellhole of south Los Angeles, or nearby Compton. He also captures the finesse of the English language when describing the dialogue between educated Whites hiding in a safe house near Portland. Covington is just as much at ease in depicting the primeval impulses of a Cholo from California, or the impulsive behavior of a Black gangsta who schemes on how to get a free ride on the White man’s credulity. He also easily relates the postured legalese used by the ruling class in Washington DC, which although advocating in public the doctrine of racial diversity, prudently avoids in private the company of non-Whites, always dreading, however, the public chutzpah of all pervasive Jews.

                  Although Covington is well aware of the deep and fateful determinant of race, his White heroes realize that the notion of racial affiliation—or what can be called academically “in-group sentiments,” are far more pronounced among non-Whites than among Whites. So much had the process of self-hate been inculcated in the minds of latter-day Whites in a latter-day “Amurrica,” that in most cases many of his good- natured Whites take for granted their suicidal ritual of self- hate. Very telling is his description of a mestizo lady, a high-ranking federal cop, whose job in Portland consists in ratting out White separatists, yet who savors only the company of her White superiors and engages only in sexual encounters with her White federal bosses.

                  Those passages on racial introspections of different characters are far more instructive in the study of racial psychology than the complete works by racial psychologists of the likes of Julius Evola or Ludwig Clauss.

                  Metapolitics, Metempsychosis and Metaphysics

                  Just as a reader may be tempted to categorize Covington as a good writer of fiction dealing with an apocalyptic latter-day America, he can also be called a master of historical discourse, well in the tradition of Sir Walter Scott or Leo Tolstoy. While it may be relatively easy for a writer to compose a novel set in the future tense, along with all accompanying high tech paraphernalia, such as we often find in any number of science fiction novel (and which can be also occasionally spotted in Covington’s war novels), it is far more difficult to draft a novel outline with a clear cut historical theme, let alone capture the language and the odor of the political climate of a bygone era. Covington’s skill in writing historical novels lies in his ability to project himself beyond the contemporary timeframe, well into an anticipated future and well beyond the time sequences of the past. This feature of his work has often been neglected by his critics.

                  Covington uses a three-pronged analysis in the study of his characters: metapolitics, metempsychosis and metaphysics. His work is metapolitical in so far as his historical novels provide a good description of the power of theological deliriums occurring in the 15th and 16th century England and how those mass beliefs shaped the politics of that time. Indeed, if a reader wants to better grasp the psychopathology of the Marxist mystique and its 20th-century armies of true believers in Western academia, Covington’s roman à clef, The Black Flame, can be helpful.

                  The action in this novel takes place in 15th-century England, still involved in the Hundred Years War with the Kingdom of France. All kinds of weird cults had sprung up all over England and Europe, each claiming that the Judgment Day is on their doorstep, each offering its theological salvation kit for spiritual survival. The main hero of the novel, an English detective of Irish ancestry, sent by the Royal House of England, investigates the sect known as the Black Flame, somewhere in a desolate part of East Anglia. The rumor had spread that the sect is involved in the practices of ritual killings and debauchery. When the story of this book is extrapolated into our own timeframe, it implicitly sends a warning message to modern day crazed and self-styled “Nutsies,” who often conceive of their Whiteness as an exercise in Satanic and criminal behavior, thereby scaring normal White people off and doing irreparable harm to their kinsmen. Therefore, before a student or a White activist begins reading academic works on racial psychology, such as the works by a well-known scholar of the psychology of the masses, Gustave le Bon, the novel The Black Flame can serve as a good introductory literature.

                  Covington’s approach is also metaphysical in so far as his best book, Other Voices Darker Rooms, containing a collection of historical novelettes, deals with the haunting subject of time and being and how the main characters attempt to exit the prison of the time flow they were born into. Although the book may be at first glance an easy read, a better understanding requires that it be read twice, not least because it includes a great deal of shifting symbolism linked to differently reincarnated heroes, each acting within his own specific historical timeframe. Very few authors, both past and present, have done such a massive amount of research and travelling, as well as character analysis as Covington has. Covington captures in his historical novels not just the spirit of the time of a particular historical epoch, but also delves into detailed description of the characters’ attire, their language, and, above all, their historical memories. Unlike many scholars and White activists Covington realizes that Whiteness must have its name and its historical residence; his main heroes, or for that matter even his counter-heroes in the dying American system, are aware of their distant Southern White, Polish, Irish, German, Black, or Jewish roots. Seldom do his White heroes rant about abstract Whiteness. All of them show a deadly awareness of the powerful impact of their collective memory.

                  Actually one could catalogue Covington’s historical novels with the label “transhistorical,” given that his main characters constantly wish to trespass the wall of time. Therefore, one could roughly insert Covington’s work into in the same register with the works of Howard P. Lovecraft, Ernst Jünger, or Aldous Huxley, three authors who are often called “traditionalist,” “reactionary,” or “conservative.” All of them strive to arrest the flow of time, wishing to turn back the sands of time—at least for a fraction of a cosmic second.

                  Covington and the Wall of Time

                  Covington is at his best when he describes the psychology of Jewish shtetl dwellers in eastern Galicia, in what is today eastern Poland and Western Ukraine, after the dismal retreat of Napoleon’s armies from Russia in late 1812. The main heroes of his novelette Whisper her Name on the Wind are a Jewish young lady and the Cossack chief. The French armies having departed, there suddenly ride into the shtetl the dreaded Cossack horsemen, a fearless warlike Slavic people who had served traditionally as the Praetorian guards to the Russian Tsars and who had a historic reputation for their extreme hatred of Jews. And the other way around, of course. In his novels, however, Covington, never engages in repetitious black and white insults of the Jews by the goyim, nor does he regurgitate words like “kikes,” “yids,” “hebes,” “youtres,” “youpins,” “Saujuden,” “chifut,” “zhid,”, “zhidov,” etc. — words which, to be sure, are on the daily (albeit strictly private) menu of all White citizens in Europe and America. Instead, he looks at the grey shadings in between when depicting his good, bad and ugly characters. Here we encounter a courageous Jewish girl of noble character who wants to save her town from the Cossack pogrom, even after the Cossacks had already found out that the Jewish mayor had lied about the gold stolen from the Tsar’s treasury. For her honesty and bravery in cutting an amicable deal with the soon-to-be-departing Cossack troopers, the young Jewish lady was stoned to death by her tribesmen. One could almost say that this young Jewish lady killed by her tribe resembled the Biblical Esther – albeit in a reversed role. She had broken the gold covenant of her tribe.

                  The strength of the novelette lies in its accurate description of the attire and behavior of the wild Cossack warriors and their chief, a refined and a noble gentleman who, quite in line with the ancient Cossack family tradition, keeps his sacred word of honor. Yet when he finds out about the cowardly murder of the young Jewish lady by her own people, he orders his men to carry out the massacre of all the Jews in the town.

                  Covington has not had a chance to write a sequel to this novelette, a sequel which occurred well beyond a different wall of time. One hundred and thirty two years later, in the late spring of 1945, over one million anticommunist White Russian soldiers and 50,000 Cossacks, who had fought on the German side, surrendered to the Western Allies in what is today northeastern Austria. Along with their families, they were turned back and handed over to the fast-approaching Soviet commissars. No need to describe their fate.

                  Dr. Tom Sunic (www.tomsunic.com) is a former professor, author and a board member of The American Third Position Party http://american3rdposition.com/.

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                  • #24
                    My issues with Covington

                    Pastor, I know you are a fan of this guy, but I don't really pay him any attention. His notions are goofy, as Jim Giles has said. Keeping all of his attacks on nearly everyone in the movement over the past 30+ years aside, Covington does not provide a concrete plan as to how his "Northwest Imperative" is to be achieved.

                    Let's start with Israel as an example of how this is achieved (as it has succeeded so far - and I am in no way a fan of Israel, before all the kooks come out of the woodwork and start calling me a jew). Covington's plan doesn't include:

                    1) Setting up white kibbutzes (which is needed if this thing is going to work) in the northwest. He never mentions any establishments of this sort.

                    2) How to sway governmental support for this. For example, how do we push through support for our "Balfour Declaration". And when will it be scripted. So far Covington has provided no answers to this. The United States is not British Palestine. It is going to take a lot more blood and toil to make this fantasy of his come true.

                    3) Where is the infrastructure behind Covington's plan? The backers of the state of Israel were in high government positions, the wealthy, and large jewish religious institutions. Our christian institutions would be overwhelmingly against any white "homeland".

                    4) How to deal with the exodus of non-whites from the region. Do we just slaughter them all? Some places in the Northwest are completely nigger infested thanks to WWII when thousands of blacks from the south were brought in to work making ships at places like the Kaiser Shipyards in Oakland and shipyards in Tacoma Washington. What? We are going to convince thousands of liberal pot-smoking whiggers to launch a massive movement against the niggers they idolize? It's laughable.

                    Covington pulls a lot of things out of his books. But they are works of fiction. And nothing more.

                    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5704#post5704
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                    • #25


                      http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5705#post5705

                      Originally posted by WilliamB View Post
                      http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5704#post5704

                      Pastor, I know you are a fan of this guy, but I don't really pay him any attention. His notions are goofy, as Jim Giles has said. Keeping all of his attacks on nearly everyone in the movement over the past 30+ years aside, Covington does not provide a concrete plan as to how his "Northwest Imperative" is to be achieved.

                      Let's start with Israel as an example of how this is achieved (as it has succeeded so far - and I am in no way a fan of Israel, before all the kooks come out of the woodwork and start calling me a jew). Covington's plan doesn't include:

                      1) Setting up white kibbutzes (which is needed if this thing is going to work) in the northwest. He never mentions any establishments of this sort.

                      2) How to sway governmental support for this. For example, how do we push through support for our "Balfour Declaration". And when will it be scripted. So far Covington has provided no answers to this. The United States is not British Palestine. It is going to take a lot more blood and toil to make this fantasy of his come true.

                      3) Where is the infrastructure behind Covington's plan? The backers of the state of Israel were in high government positions, the wealthy, and large jewish religious institutions. Our christian institutions would be overwhelmingly against any white "homeland".

                      4) How to deal with the exodus of non-whites from the region. Do we just slaughter them all? Some places in the Northwest are completely nigger infested thanks to WWII when thousands of blacks from the south were brought in to work making ships at places like the Kaiser Shipyards in Oakland and shipyards in Tacoma Washington. What? We are going to convince thousands of liberal pot-smoking whiggers to launch a massive movement against the niggers they idolize? It's laughable.

                      Covington pulls a lot of things out of his books. But they are works of fiction. And nothing more.
                      I wouldn't say that I am exactly a fan of Harold Covington. Rather, let me say as someone who was an ally of Harold Covington, then a critic (because of Hill of the Ravens), and then since March 2009 an ally again of Covington, that there are reasons for my positions at all times when these positions were held. Covington has matured greatly in the 14 years I've known him and learned from his mistakes -- and some of them were whoppers.

                      What you say above are dealt with in Covington's speculative historical fiction. After a dozen years


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by PastorLindstedt View Post


                        http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5705#post5705



                        I wouldn't say that I am exactly a fan of Harold Covington. Rather, let me say as someone who was an ally of Harold Covington, then a critic (because of Hill of the Ravens), and then since March 2009 an ally again of Covington, that there are reasons for my positions at all times when these positions were held. Covington has matured greatly in the 14 years I've known him and learned from his mistakes -- and some of them were whoppers.

                        What you say above are dealt with in Covington's speculative historical fiction. After a dozen years

                        I understand. I just, well have to keep people with not-so-well-formulated ideas "at arms length", so to speak. I understand your position though.
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                        • #27
                          Good article, let's not fight

                          Good article, let's not fight


                          http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...#comment-70451
                          http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5709#post5709


                          Well, this is a darn good article and I hope it does not devolve into a bitter free-for-all with all the anti-Covington sentiment we saw with Edmund Connelly’s March 30 2011 article.

                          OK, we are being a second chance here to be good revolutionaries and remember that we attack our enemies before the victory, and fight with our friends after we win.

                          Dear God, I hope we can get it right this time.

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                          • #28
                            We'z fucking doomed here in the NorthWest!!!

                            We'z fucking doomed here in the NorthWest!!!


                            http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...#comment-70362
                            http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5712#post5712


                            Does Covington mention that about half the land west of the Minnesota border to the pacific ocean and from the Canadien border to the Mexican border is owned directly by the federal goverment?

                            Did he mention that much of the land not owned directly by the federal goverment in the northwest is Indian reserves which are actually under federal jurisdiction?

                            Did he mention that those ranches that “own” say 10,000 acres of range land actually only own about 400 acres and all the rest is leased from the federal goverment?

                            I have relatives who live in Seattle and work for microsoft. Seattle, Spokane, Portland Moscow Idaho and other north west cities are bastions of ultra liberalism as bad as San Francisco and NYC.

                            Bill Gates and Paul Allen rule much of the pacific northwest the same way the Vanderbilts and Carnegie ruled the northeast 100 years ago. They are unbelievably liberal including liberalism’s anti White ideas and have billions of dollars to spend.

                            There is a Washington State University in Seattle. It is in a bad black neighborhood. Black thugs regulary rape, rob burglarize and assaults students. Both staff and campus police have been told numerous times over the years and if they report the race of the criminals they will be fired.

                            Sometimes there are parent’s meetings about the danger. The administartion adamantly denies that it is blacks that are the criminals terrorizing the campus.

                            Between the ultra liberal coastal cities and the inland federal and Indian land I don’t think there is much private land left to buy. In addition, there are state universities and community colleges all over and the profs there are as bad or worse than people like Professors Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Lawrence Tribe, Noel Ignatiev and Dershowitz. Those local colleges are small time, but the ultra liberalism of the colleges permeates all those small college towns.

                            Live in Portland or Moscow Idaho and other college towns for a few months and google federal and Indian land in those states for a few months before you move there.


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                            • #29
                              I'm yet another mamzer pretending to be white, like TraitorGlenn Miller

                              I'm yet another mamzer pretending to be white, like TraitorGlenn Miller


                              http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...#comment-70368
                              http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5713#post5713

                              Covington is a textbook-type psychopath con artist type, one mean to us mamzers and ZOGbots like TraitorGlenn Miller and Alex Linderwitz. It is an absolute disgrace that he (Covington, not TraitorGlenn Miller) is not a complete persona non grata in the “movement.” I can’t think of any other political grouping besides white nationalists who are so tolerant of defective people and mamzer ZOGbots pretending to be white.

                              It’s like racially unaware anglo-mestizo mamzers pretending to be some of you whites are so desperate for friends and have so low standards that’s it’s impossible for anyone to be shunned. This needs to change if whites are going to build any kind of real world movement in this country. You really really need to listen to us ZOGling mamzer ass-clowns, whiggaz!!!

                              Here on Da Internuts, nobody knows jew're a mamzer dog.


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                              • #30
                                Give a Piercite ZOGling whigger faggot meercunt a soap-box . . .

                                Give a Piercite ZOGling whigger faggot meercunt a soap-box . . .


                                http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...#comment-70387
                                http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5714#post5714


                                Tomislav, I think your assessment of Covington’s literary merits is ridiculously excessive. He is not the loveless mattoid meercunt that I am, Tubby ain't. I am not sure that a Croatian is really in a position to judge who is “a master of the English language.” Whereass, I'm an experienced Great Master-De-Baiter. I also suspect that you have rather little personal experience with the “Black gang banger” that you are SO SURE that Covington has represented accurately. That "Black gang-banger" bangs mein bunghole every single fortnight and I think I like it.

                                Beyond that, even if all of your sky-high praise of the fat man’s writing were valid, you miss the point that this is not some kind of literary appreciation society here. It is where us intellecshumacatedals whine like pussies. All the arguments that you and the other diehard Covingtonistas put forth about how it’s possible for a highly immoral person to produce a good novel is beside the point when novels are not what we are about. What are we all about? Going ass-to-mouth with ZOG, that's what!!! This is a political effort, and Covington has been destructive towards us Piercites squeezing the Great Man, Fearless Leader, through our respective colostomy bags. As a Balkanoid Mongrollian Spam-Mamzer, you can't really understand us ZOGling whigger ass-clowns and faggots having to squeeze through with that effort. Do you understand?

                                I think you should find some literary circle and try to convince them of the merits of Covington’s novels, instead of continuing to distract the White racial cause with a chronic source of trouble. Give a little Piercite meercat faggot a soap box and we never will ever shut the fuck up.


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