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    Protestantism and Racial Decline



    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...acial-decline/
    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/for...=3924#post3924
    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=4391#post4391



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    Thrasymachus has written an interesting post about my comments on the Reformation.

    I have been meaning to expand in considerable detail my thoughts on that subject. I’m also convinced that “it all goes back” (i.e., the collapse of American civilization) to the Reformation.

    “The Modern World,” as some have called it, goes back to the secular and religious trends that were swirling around the time Columbus discovered the Americas and when Martin Luther launched the Protestant Reformation in Germany a few decades later.

    Unlike Thrasymachus, I don’t hold the Renaissance Papacy in very high esteem as a spiritual institution. Many volumes have been written about the Borgias and their successors. It will suffice to say that the Catholic Church had become a very worldly institution in that period.

    Before there was Protestantism, it must not be forgotten that there was Humanism. The banner of this website is taken from Raphael’s “School of Athens” which was painted in the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican around the time Luther was making his pilgrimage to Rome.

    “School of Athens” is a beautiful fresco – we honor the Roman Catholic Church by displaying it here.

    It is a real credit to the Vatican’s contribution to Western civilization which reflects the revival of interest in the Greco-Roman classics during that period. Pope Julius II also had Michelangelo decorating the ceiling of the Sistene Chapel back then.

    In the 21st century, we can look back on the aesthetic accomplishments of the Renaissance Papacy with the perspective of an American tourist and find much to admire. We can also see that it was tasteful worldly men like Pope Julius II and Pope Leo X who were commissioning this artwork.

    It must have taken a lot of money to patronize all these artists and to build all these great palaces in Italy. Where was the money coming from?

    Now here we get to the heart of the issue: it all started when Pope Leo X sent Johann Tetzel into Germany to sell indulgences to raise money for the construction of the extravagant St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome.

    Luther responded by nailing that famous document on the church door in Wittenberg in 1517: that was the beginning of the catastrophic decline of the Catholic Church in Northern Europe, a blow from which it never recovered, and the start of a historical arc that ultimately led to the creation of the United States.

    There is a lot of empty talk on the internet about the need to preserve our culture. Just what is our culture though? It is Protestantism.

    In Luther, you can see the very first “American”: he nails that document to the Wittenberg church door, he writes the Archbishop of Mainz to inform him of his opinion, he starts to assert the doctrine of the relationship between the individual Christian and God, he stands up against the Inquisition in the name of reason, faith, and conscience, he demands that his errors be proven, etc.

    In Wittenberg, Luther becomes a preacher, not a Roman Catholic priest. His greatest act of sabotage was to translate the Bible into the German language. It was a revolutionary act of defiance to bring the Word of God directly to the German people in their own language.

    In the process of translating the Bible into German from Latin, Luther effectively created an entirely new religion, as the Bible didn’t mean the same thing in German or English that it had meant in Latin and Greek.

    At the end of his life, Martin Luther had taken a wife with whom he had six children. There were Protestant churches throughout Germany and Northern Europe. The Bible had been translated into German, English, French and other European languages.

    We haven’t gotten to the story of America yet . . . but, there are groups of dissenting Protestants in Europe with their own confessions, who through England would ultimately travel to North America to found English colonies along the Atlantic seaboard in the 17th century.

    In the intervening years (1517 to 1607), Europe would be convulsed by religious warfare between Protestants and Catholics, which culminated in the Thirty Years’ War which lasted from 1618 to 1648. America was taking shape in North America while the Wars of Religion were raging in Western Europe.

    How does this touch upon race?

    It is important to keep in mind that Catholics and Protestants settled the New World. Spain and Portugal established their sphere of influence in Latin America. Britain and France fought over North America until the Seven Years’ War.

    In the Spanish and Portuguese colonies, which is to say the Catholic colonies, there was widespread miscegenation which led to the creation of Mexicans and Brazilians. This was also true of French North America where the Catholic French were not as reticent about interbreeding with American Indians.

    In the British colonies, which were settled by dissenting Anglo-Protestants, you have the English planting a Protestant culture which would have a remarkably different fate than the French, Spanish, and Portuguese colonies.

    In Virginia and New England, the Anglo-Protestant colonists started out as Englishmen and Protestants, and they made an effort to convert the American Indians to Protestantism. This evangelism would continue in New England and Virginia until around King Phillips’ War and Bacon’s Rebellion.

    By 1700, the “American” has emerged into full blossom in Massachusetts and Virginia: he is an English speaker, a Protestant, and now he is a White man. There is something like an American national identity taking shape around a racialized version of Protestantism.

    The Americans looked back to the Old Testament and interpreted their conflicts with the Indians through the prism of the old tribal faith that had motivated the Israelites in their conquest of Canaan. Isn’t that what the Americans were doing in North America?

    Weren’t the Americans the Israelites in the wilderness of North America? Wasn’t it our national destiny to conquer this bountiful continent which had been delivered to us by Divine Providence? What sense did it make to mix the blood of the new Israelites with the Canaanites?

    As the Puritans knew, God had warned the Israelites about the dangers of miscegenation in the Old Testament. This is where the American ideal of “racial purity” came from which was the foundation of “the color line.”

    In the 18th century, the Americans went through the Great Awakening and the American Revolution, and our world here in North America was completely transformed in the process of severing our ties to the British Empire.

    In the 17th century and 18th century, Western Europe had reacted to the Wars of Religion and the Scientific Revolution by reviving speculative natural philosophy – there was a great hope that human society could be established on a firm rational and scientific basis like Newtonian physics.

    In North America, the American frontiersmen were consumed by the problem of managing the black slaves and defeating the Indians who were being pushed back into the interior – under the racialized version of Protestantism, the Americans had begun their long march to the Pacific.

    In Western Europe, the Europeans were trying to figure out how to put an end to the religious wars, had grown excited by contemporary developments in science and philosophy, and had begun to ponder how to reconstruct human society through the use of reason.

    During the American Revolution, Enlightenment philosophy (which had been flourishing in Western Europe) was borrowed to justify separating from the British Empire. In New England, which launched the American Revolution, it put down much deeper roots than in the Southern colonies.

    Also in the North, the Quakers and Unitarians appeared in the late 18th century, and their negative philanthropic influence along with the imported version of ideological liberalism from Britain and France would soon have a disastrous impact upon American racialism there.

    By 1800, the United States had become an independent country, and the “Americans” were now English speakers, Anglo-Protestants, and White men who subscribed to republican political principles.

    In the nineteenth century, the American experiment succumbed to its own growing heterogeneity: the North and South diverged into separate nations, the War Between the States broke out, and the Confederacy lost the war and its independence.

    In the North, the Revolution had been very ideological, and fidelity to the revolutionary ideology for subsequent generations of Northerners meant pushing the limits of their abstract doctrine to ever greater extremes.

    There was also a religious revolution going on there: the Quakers and Unitarians, the evangelical Protestants that emerged from the Second Great Awakening, and the secular intellectuals like the Transcendentalists who were keeping up with fashionable European intellectual trends transformed the existence of slavery within the Union into a moral and ideological issue that eventually succeeded in fracturing and toppling the Union.

    The North was also developing a commercial and industrial economy. This was attracting wave after wave of European immigrants from Catholic Ireland and the Catholic parts of Germany. It was well on the way to becoming the “Nation of Immigrants.”

    In contrast, the South had remained agrarian and was becoming even more deeply committed to negro slavery. The European immigrants were settling in the North. The South had remained Protestant and was the expansionist section of the United States.

    The South was evolving into a feudal society. Aristocracy was becoming fashionable. Enlightenment liberalism was fading here. Racial science was thriving and pre-Darwinian theories like polygenism were in the air. Southerners had turned their eyes toward Northern Mexico and Cuba as fresh targets for American expansion.

    In the aftermath of the War Between the States, the cancerous ideology and the cancerous religious trends in the North (which grew more serious in the 19C) triumphed within the Union. This culminated in the abolition of slavery and the Reconstruction experiment of extending citizenship to the negro “freedmen” and passing civil rights legislation to make them our social and political equals in America.

    By 1900, the United States was essentially the Northern states, which had developed its own unique racial system. The Americans were White Christians (there was some confusion on this point given the unresolved and contested status of blacks, Asians, and Indians) who subscribed to an ideological version of republicanism.

    Meanwhile, the Jim Crow South had diverged into its own alternative universe. From 1865 until 1965, Dixie had its own racial caste system, its own racialized culture, its own political system, and the Reconstruction amendments had been nullified in the South by the Plessy decision.

    In the South, the Americans were still English speakers, Protestants, and White men who subscribed to a conservative version of republicanism. It was still an agrarian society that was dominated by a homogeneous ethnic group descended from the British Isles.

    In the 20th century, these two worlds which had been diverging for 100 years collided a second time in the “Civil Rights Movement,” which lasted from 1955 until 1968. The assault upon the South was renewed by the Supreme Court in the Gaines decision in 1938 which was followed by the Brown decision in 1954 and Loving vs. Virginia in 1967.

    From 1900 until 1965, the North was transformed once again: this time an enormous wave of immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe had settled in the North, the backlash against Nazi Germany had popularized anti-racism there, the American victory over the Great Depression and Allied victory over the Axis Powers had led to a utopian mindset, and the Jews and their non-WASP allies had risen to power in the financial world, the universities, and the mass media in the North.

    By the 1950s, the traditional WASP elite in the North (i.e., the Madison Grants, the Henry Adams, the Charles Davenports, the Henry Cabot Lodges, etc) was being overthrown by the present day multiethnic elite that was graduating from the North’s universities which had switched to the meritocratic system in the aftermath of the Second World War.

    From the 1930s until the 1970s, the great project of redefining Americanism had begun in the North, as the new elite displaced the old WASP elite by demonizing it as racist, sexist, homophobic, reactionary, bigoted, and so forth – they completely rewrote American history during this period.

    In the aftermath of the Civil Rights Movement, the Northern multiethnic elite of Jews and deracinated White liberals became a multiracial/multicultural elite that expanded to include blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homosexuals, women, etc.

    By 1970, the “Americans” were people who subscribed to a perverted strain of liberal ideology which was heavily influenced by European intellectual trends like Marxism and postmodernism. For the first time in American history, there was no longer any racial, ethnic, religious, or cultural basis to Americanism.

    This revolution had begun in the North which was conquered between the 1920s and the 1970s. In the 1950s and the 1960s, the new multiethnic elite used the power of the federal government and the mass media to impose its racial and cultural ideals on the South.

    See, the revolutionary destruction of traditional Americanism had begun in the North, where it had been opposed by Henry Adams, Henry Ford, and Madison Grant, because that was the unhinged section of the United States where all the insurgents had been invited to settle back in the “Melting Pot” days.

    They didn’t settle in Dixie because the Jim Crow South had a totally different racial, political, cultural, and economic system. It was the industrial and commercial economy of the Northern states, its huge inviting cities which were hungry for “cheap labor,” and its religious and ethnic confusion and ideological orientation that had created the fatal opening which the predatory elite walked through in the JFK years.

    By the year 2011, it was becoming obvious that the Universal Church of Political Correctness was losing its grip on power. The American elite that rose to power from the 1930s to the 1970s was staring down the barrel of a gun. The old tactic of hauling every dissenter before the Inquisition to be put on trial for heresy against Black Run Amerika wasn’t working anymore.
    (1) First, the American elite had been drawn from disparate sources through the meritocratic system which was established in the postwar years – the people who rose to power through that system didn’t feel any sense of obligation to ordinary folks in the Heartland, and used their newfound power only to feather their own nests at the expense of the nation at large.

    (2) Second, the American elite was committed to a progressive ideology which had no correspondence to reality, which over time began to erode the cultural and economic foundation of American prosperity and jeopardize its grip on power.

    (3) Third, the American elite had begun to systematically deconstruct the American nation, which came at the cost of losing legitimacy and narrative power over vast swathes of the Heartland.

    (4) Fourth, the rise of social media allowed Americans in the Heartland to start constructing their own narrative, and they began to demonize “the establishment” and “the political class” and the “Mainstream Media” and were beginning to explicitly organize themselves as an opposition party.

    (5) Fifth, the American elite was always incredibly unstable because of its own heterogeneity and its total alienation from White people in the Heartland, which made it easy to castigate as “the Other.” It had nothing at its disposal but wealth and fantasy ideology to legitimize its grip on power.

    (6) Sixth, the price of Black Run Amerika and the political class to White America was becoming unbearable, and there was so much cognitive dissonance between the ideology of the political class and the hard facts of reality for the despised ordinary White family that it was resulting in a narrative rupture and a total loss of legitimacy for the American elite.

    And so, we can return all the way back to the beginning of Modernity when Luther and Calvin launched that revolt against the Catholic Church.

    In Protestant America and Protestant Northern Europe, every Protestant has been told to shut up, conform, and submit to the authority of the liberal establishment since 1945 – unless they want to be hauled before the Secular Inquisition and put on trial, excommunicated from respectability, or thrown in prison by the ruling class for the manufactured sins against liberal dogma of “racism” and “extremism” and “anti-Semitism” and “nativism” and “xenophobia,” etc.

    The very essence of Protestantism, which is the foundation of American culture, is that the individual answers only to God, that the individual is supposed to follow his reason and conscience, that the individual Christian is as good as any fallible Pope or “Human Rights Commission,” and has the right, the freedom, and the duty to question the New York Times, NPR, and President Barack Hussein Obama if they are abusing the faithful and steering them down a disastrous course.

    That is precisely what has been undone in the United States and Northern Europe by the secular liberal establishment since 1945.
    Nowhere has Protestantism been undone more than in Britain, Sweden, Canada, and Germany where ordinary people live in mortal terror of the thought police.

    If Martin Luther were published in the Federal Republic of Germany in the year 2011, he would be thrown in prison for all sorts of heresies. No one who is familiar with John Calvin’s Geneva can possibly lay American and Dutch degeneracy at the doorstep of Calvinism.

    All of our better instincts in America to oppose degeneracy, to make up our own minds, to follow our own conscience, to love learning, and to question authority trace back to Luther and Calvin. The same is true of the racialized faith and the rationalized nationalism that drove American expansion across North America from the 17C to the 19C.

    Insofar as American Catholics are opposed to the racial status quo in the United States, it is because they are marinated in America’s Protestant culture, which inspires them to dissent from the Roman Catholic Church and make up their own minds about this issue.

    Protestants and Catholics have been conforming to the mores and ideology of the American liberal establishment which has captured every important cultural institution in our society (just look at Yale, Princeton, and Harvard) – liberalism, a secular fantasy ideology, is now the universal faith which rules unchallenged over all of Western civilization.

    This is not the time for Protestants to pick a fight with Catholics, or for Catholics to pick a fight with Protestants, when both Protestants and Catholics subscribe to a Christian faith that is utterly incompatible with liberalism.

    Liberalism is the enemy.

    Martin Luther King, Jr. has assumed the role of Jesus Christ in Black Run Amerika. The Civil Rights Martyrs (CRM) like John Lewis, Emmett Till, and Rosa Parks have replaced the saints and martyrs of Christianity. The gospel of anti-racism and diversity has become a sacred dogma. The only sacred marriage in the United States is a gay marriage. Divorce and abortion are now sacred rights.

    There are now Medieval shrines in Black Run Amerika like the Edmund Pettus Bridge which attract thousands of liberal pilgrims every year who walk over that magical bridge. Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton walked over that bridge in 2007.

    Whiteness has been transformed into the Original Sin. There is now a shrine to the divine MLK on the National Mall in Washington, DC. Charles Krauthammer claimed in his column that MLK has ascended to the American Pantheon.

    I could continue to elaborate on the secular religion that is American liberalism, but it will suffice to say that the new ideological wine of liberalism has been poured into the old Christian bottles, and that the theological differences which separate Protestants and Catholics are rather small compared to the ones that separate Christians from the doctrine of liberalism and its degenerate clergy of secular intellectuals in our universities.

    The liberal faith is what has to be eradicated in this country.

    Every time I wake up in the morning burning with a zeal that inspires me to take the time out of my day to attack Paul Krugman and Tom Friedman and Roger Cohen and the rest of the liars and frauds in the Universal Church of Political Correctness and the Mainstream Media on this website, I am reminded of that numbered list of 95 theses that Martin Luther nailed on that door in Wittenberg almost 500 years ago.

    For some strange reason, I have never cared what those morons and idiots thought about me. I never thought much of the authority of the liberal establishment. I will never renounce my beliefs or prostrate myself before those fools either.

    It was an attitude that I had absorbed by osmosis from my own Protestant culture. There is absolutely nothing that I enjoy more than smashing their idols. I would love to see dynamite strapped to that MLK statue in Washington. Every single holy shrine to the “Civil Rights Movement” in Dixie ought to be eradicated.

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  • #2
    Roman Catholicism is likewise the pseudo-universalistic, crypto-tribal religion of Latin Europe.

    Roman Catholicism is likewise the pseudo-universalistic, crypto-tribal religion of Latin Europe.


    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...comment-328134
    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=4411#post4411

    Protestantism, like early Christianity, is a truly universalistic religion.

    As such it poses no particular danger to nationalism.

    The true threat to nationalism comes from pseudo-universalistic, crypto-tribal religions of rival nations. Such religions harness human desire for universal truth, for the benefit of the master tribe.

    Islam is a classic example. It claims to be a message for all the worlds inhabitants, but it serves the tribal interests of Arabs. All Muslims must bow towards Arabia five times each day, they must visit Arabia at least once during their lifetimes, they must revere Arabic as a holy language (Koran cannot be translated into other languages, all religious scholars must learn Arabic). This has greatly benefitted the Arab tribe, protecting their homeland from invasion while allowing them to expand in Africa, Asia, and even Europe, greatly increasing their numbers and prosperity.

    Kevin MacDonald has successfully shown modern Liberalism to be a pseudo-universalistic, crypto-tribal secular religion which benefits the Jews.

    (Nietzsche tried to make the argument that Christianity as preached by Saint Paul was likewise a pseudo-universalistic crypto-tribal Jewish construct, but the actual prosperity of Europeans and subordinate role of the Jewish minority in Nordic countries prior to 1900 disproves this hypothesis)

    Roman Catholicism is likewise the pseudo-universalistic, crypto-tribal religion of Latin Europe. Rome is the holy city, Latin is the holy language, most popes have been Italians, most non-Italian popes have been Spanish or French, the French-speaking Normans conquered England in 1066 with the blessing of the pope, the north Italian Lombard League defeated German emperor Frederick Barbarossa with papal support, and northern Europe financially subsidized Italian prosperity via indulgence sales, Peter’s Pence etc.

    During the high middle ages, loyalty to Catholicism was a net benefit to Nordic Europe, since it guarded against domination by Islam, which would have been far worse. Once the relative decline of Muslim power made the conquest of Europe highly improbable, Catholicism was no longer a net benefit to Nordic Europe.

    England, German and the other Nordic countries reached their peak of relative power, prosperity and freedom after the Reformation and before the rise of 20th century CofC Liberalism, precisely because those were the years they were not mentally enslaved to someone else’s pseudo-universalistic crypto-tribal lies.

    Past performance is no guarantee of future results, so I do not claim that Evangelical Christianity (the term Luther himself prefered) is the “answer for the White race”. God wants those who come to Him to do so for His own sake, not out of any such ulterior motives. I merely present this analysis to answer those who blame Evangelical Christianity for the relative decline of European peoples, and who claim that a return to Catholicism is the “answer for the White race”.

    For those who claim that a return to Paganism is the only “answer for the White race”, I say: consider ancient Macedonia, ancient Rome or Medeival Lithuania. All had multi-cultaralism and Jewish economic dominace, despite their Pagan religions. Open borders and imperialism produced their predicatable ill effects under Alexander, Caracalla and the Grand Dukes, despite the lack of a “Jewish” religion devoted to “slave morality”.

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    • #3
      Can you imagine John Calvin being summoned to America in the 21st century?

      Can you imagine John Calvin being summoned to America in the 21st century?


      http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...comment-328152
      http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=4412#post4412

      Can you imagine John Calvin being summoned to America in the 21st century?
      “The Consistory, which made no distinction between religion and morality, could summon anyone for questioning, investigate any charge of backsliding, and entered homes periodically to be sure no one was cheating on Calvin’s God. Legislation specified the number of dishes to be served at each meal and the color of garments worn. What one was permitted to wear depended upon who one was, for never was a society more class ridden. ….

      But even the elite – the clergy, of course – were allowed few diversions. Calvinists worked hard because there wasn’t much else they were permitted to do. “Feasting” was proscribed; so were dancing, singing, pictures, statues, relics, church bells, organs, altar candles; “indecent or irreligious” sons, staging or attending theatrical plays; wearing rouge, jewelry, lace, or “immodest” dress; speaking disrespectfully of your betters; extravagant entertainment; swearing, gambling, playing cards, hunting, drunkenness; naming children after anyone but figures in the Old Testament; reading “immoral or irreligious” books; and sexual intercourse, except between partners of different genders who were married to one another.

      To show that Calvinists were merciful, first offenders were let off with reprimands and two-time losers with fines. After that, those who flaunted the law were in real trouble. The Consistory made no allowances for probation, suspended sentences, or rehabilitation programs, and Calvin assumed that everyone enjoyed community service without being sentenced to it. Excommunication and banishment from the community were considered dire, though those living in a more permissive age might find them less appalling. In any event, there were plenty of other penalties, some of them as odd as the offenses they punished. A father who stubbornly insisted on calling his newborn son Claude spent for days in the canton jail; so did a woman convicted of wearing her hair at an “immoral” height. A child who struck his parents was summarily beheaded. Abortion was not a political issue because any single woman discovered with child was drowned. (So, if he could be identified, was her impregnator.) Violating the seventh commandment was a capitol offense. Calvin’s stepson was found in bed with another woman; his daughter-in-law, behind the haysack with another man. All four miscreants were beheaded.”

      I don’t think anyone can confuse John Calvin of being a supporter of gay marriage!

      Insofar as there is a “progressive movement” in America, it is entirely about unraveling America’s Protestant culture, which is heavily indebted to John Calvin. The instinctive American revulsion against “degeneracy” is drawn from the well of Calvinism.



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      • #4
        The reformation [was] started by Luther as a movement for Germans to have a German church and not pay tribute to Southern Italians

        The reformation [was] started by Luther as a movement for Germans to have a German church and not pay tribute to Southern Italians


        http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...comment-328165
        http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...ted=1#post4413


        White people can split hairs over religion until the end of the world, ignoring little things like the invasion of 10-25 million non White illegal aliens as 100% White Baptists and White Lutherans become obsessed that White Catholics are supposedly following the anti-Christ because of some interpretation of the sacrament wafer actually becoming the flesh of Jesus Christ (I never could understand why we good Christians were supposed to eat the flesh of Jesus Christ and drink Christ’s blood as a holy sacrament).

        I see the reformation started by Luther as simply an honest movement for Germans to have a German church and not have to pay tribute to Southern Italians. But certainly giving some taxes/tribute to White Italians is better than having to pay the infidel tax to Arab Muslims or Muslim Turks – as these Muslim taxes include taking our sons and daughters as their sexual slaves.

        Also, the big push of the Protestant reformation was to get regular church goers to read the Old Testament Jewish Bible for themselves instead of having to rely on Catholic Priests to do this for them.

        Do White people really need to make the Jewish story of Exodus and Purim slaughters in the book of Esther our one and holy book – the be all and end all?

        Luther is supposed to be completely redeemed because he wrote one tract attacking the Jewish Talmud – but so what? All the Catholic Popes before ~ 1960 did the same.

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        • #5
          Fucking mean & nasty mackeral-snappers if you ask me

          Fucking mean & nasty mackeral-snappers if you ask me


          http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...comment-328177
          http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=4417#post4417


          I can’t see making common ground with catholics. In my area they are set against our old ways and national sovereignty in almost every possiable way. Their church leadership push for more illegal mexicans to come our way; helps the mexcian govenrment in their efforts to get documents to illgeals so they can get wellfare. And drive “legally” in the state. They march to up hold forced bussing; march to limit our gun rights. The catholic chuch supports social justice, wellfare and damn near evrything else from the progressives expect sexual morality issues. And they are MEAN and NASTY when you ask them about those actions

          Don’t seem like folks we can trust to me.

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          • #6
            The secular fantasy ideology called liberalism

            The secular fantasy ideology called liberalism


            http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...comment-328193
            http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=4418#post4418


            The root cause of this is ultimately a disorder that has been introduced into the faith or the myth or the narrative that underpins American civilization – that disorder is a secular fantasy ideology called liberalism.

            Liberalism is hegemonic in the United States. It is similarly hegemonic in every other Western nation. This cancerous ideology has declared war on the racial, ethnic, cultural, and religious underpinnings of Western civilization.

            Is Protestantism the answer? Is Catholicism the answer? Is Mormonism the answer? Is Orthodox Christianity the answer? Is Odinism the answer? Is Hellenism the answer?

            These debates miss the point – liberalism is the hegemonic narrative in America, the priests of liberalism control all the major cultural institutions, and their control of film and television specifically is what has given them the power to force every other faith to conform to liberalism.

            Protestantism, Catholicism, Mormonism, Orthodoxy . . . they all conform to the tune of liberalism. Everyone from the Pope to the LDS to the Southern Baptist Convention is parroting the same liberal worldview on race and culture which is propagated by the Universal Church of Political Correctness in the universities and the Mainstream Media.

            Liberalism is the faith of the ruling class in America.

            There were people who will come here and say that the Jews are the root of the problem. This is partially true.

            Jews really are a major component of the American ruling class. Surely, the Jews are vastly overrepresented among the ranks of atheists, agnostics, and secular intellectuals who keep concocting these pseudo-religions and secular fantasy ideologies as a substitute faith.

            In the 20C, the secular Jews and the secular Protestants and the secular Catholics began to merge into the same ruling class. It was drawn from elements of Reform Judaism, liberal Protestantism, and liberal elements of Catholicism.

            You can see it merging together into the “counter-culture” in the time of John Dewey, Randolph Bourne, and Horace Kallen in America during the Progressive Era – it was during the 1920s and the 1930s that it really began to take shape, it was during the 1940s and 1950s when this new elite triumphed, and it was during the 1960s and 1970s that it began impose its worldview on the rest of America.

            The present ruling class is heavily Jewish, but not exclusively so. It is more accurately described as multiracial, multiethnic, and multicultural – all kinds of people from various backgrounds, lots of rich people who have made a ton of money and who feel no obligation to anyone, with Jews being heavily overrepresented, who all share the same faith in the universal doctrine of liberalism or “progressivism” or whatever it is calling itself these days.

            The face of the elite or “the political class” is Steven Spielberg, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Chris Matthews, Warren Buffett, Bernie Madoff, Frank Rich, Fareed Zakaria, Barack Hussein Obama, Luis Gutierrez, John Paul Stevens, Earl Warren, etc – this is the scum which has risen to the top of our social and economic system in America.

            This disparate group of people which lords over us, which collectively constitutes a predatory elite, is united only by its faith in liberal ideology. Again, I stress that were are dealing with all kinds of people here, including those that come from mixed backgrounds like Barack Hussein Obama.

            What is an American? The “American” is now anyone who subscribes to the doctrine of liberalism which has enabled these people to rise to elite social status.

            The secular fantasy ideology is the only thing that unites the ruling class. It is the only thing that unites Americans now.



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            • #7
              Mackeral-snapping papist kike-sucker wants a rematch of The Thirty Year's War

              Mackeral-snapping papist kike-sucker wants a rematch of The Thirty Year's War


              http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...comment-328218
              http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=4424#post4424

              I’m white and active in the fight against BRA. I have risked much and expended much on behalf of the struggle. I have been a reader of this blog for some time and have enjoyed your unique point of view on the problem we all face.

              But I am a Catholic first. And if your philosophy is based upon that of the arch-heretic Martin Luther and his successor, the twisted antipope John Calvin, I am your enemy.

              No one man other than Muhammad himself has done more damage to the Faith and to the civilization centered upon it — the West — than the rebel monk of Wittenburg. The wounds he cut into the body of Chistendom are festering to this day. And this is your hero?

              Your blog, your rules, of course. I’d never try to tell a man what he ought to say with his own voice in his own forum. But I do reserve the right to disagree with error when he utters it, and to leave his forum for more agreeable surroundings.

              This I now do.

              I'm Little Butt I'm Loud!!!

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