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  • #16
    Drunken Anglo-Mestizo ZOGbots that still haet "Tubby, Tubby, Tubby."

    Drunken Anglo-Mestizo ZOGbots that still haet "Tubby, Tubby, Tubby."


    http://thewhitenetwork.com/2012/09/0.../#comment-1558
    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=6656#post6656


    August Dammier asked: @Mr. Williams, being as I’ve heard you’re an ex Green Beret officer, how come Dr. Pierce didn’t nominate you over that dumbbell Gliebe to run the NA? Okay, maybe he didn’t actually appoint Gliebe, but certainly he had the power to put you in the command seat.”
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    Dr. Pierce appointed no one to succeed him as NA Chairman, August, though “dumbbell” has claimed in past that he received the (unwitnessed) deathbed tap. He never planned to name a successor, himself. That task was always going to be left to his hand-picked, trusted Alliance Board of Directors, and, unfortunately, too soon they appointed the Gliebster, not knowing that he’d quickly go rogue on them.

    Being ex-Special Forces is no qualification to fill the shoes of a morally courageous giant like Dr. Pierce. BTW, where are all those physically courageous ex-Special Ops heroes of our race? Why have they not heeded the call to come to the aid of their race? The men I served with in the 1960s were certainly racially conscious; hell, our team voted 100% for George Wallace in our 1968 mock presidential election. What exactly were they fighting and risking their lives for then? Why won’t they fight now for the survival of their very precious, unique and fragile sub-species? Goes to show that transient physical courage doesn’t translate into the much more rare and enduring moral courage of the type Dr. Pierce had. The lying political saboteur Covington projected many times in print, with malice aforethought, about what a “coward” Dr. Pierce was. And contrary to rumors spread by the Covingtonistas, Dr. Pierce loved how I took care of his “light work,” leaving him time to focus on what he did best.

    The fact is, I had resigned from the Alliance just a couple of months before Dr. Pierce died because I was displeased with the direction our Alliance had been heading at that time, and particularly with one member who had been very disruptive, and was causing serious divisions among our membership. I didn’t know Dr. Pierce was terminally ill at the time and I don’t believe he knew then either. The BoD asked me at Dr. Pierce’s memorial service who I thought should be named the next Chairman and I gave them my recommendation — but they went with the ambitious goofball Gliebe who had, by then, strong Skinhead and Ohio factions, plus his FBI/SPLC handler Lawrence Myers, behind him, lobbying hard for him for the position.

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    …I’ve heard about your legal problems with Mr. Covington, and read the case. You won, hands down. But we both know you’ll never collect because Mr. C hasn’t got a pot to piss in.
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    Do “we” really know that, August? He’s froggy of late, boasting about donations he has solicited and received, both on the Internet and through the USPS, for his Northwest Migration scam; plus he sells thousands of his 15 or so fantasy novels, either directly or through Amazon.com and other sites. His intellectual property alone is a piss pot of some value.

    I have no legal problems. Defendant Covington sure does, however. That’s why he’s been a fugitive, a “rabbit,” for going on 15 years now, always looking over his shoulder, “bags packed by the door,” confined to cyberspace and his hidey-hole up in Washington state.

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    So let me ask: if he posted a public apology and admitted he did you wrong, would that bury the hatchet?
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    No. In healthier times I’d have long since buried my ax in his neck for his dishonorable transgressions against me, separating his ugly head from his fat body. And nobody would have given a hoot’s holler.
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    If he said, “Look Will, I ain’t got a nickel, but I want everyone to know you were in the right and I wasn’t.” Would that close the issue down?
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    No.
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    Trust me, I don’t know the man and don’t give a hoots holler about him. I just am curious why we in this movement can’t seem to gain any traction on anything.”
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    Your curiosity is based on faulty premise, August: that Defendant Covington and I are somehow in the same “movement.” By his deeds he is the enemy, and one who, unlike Big Jew, I have established can actually be defeated, and legally, and be made an example of what we do to his type. You’d do well to continue not giving him any thought and advise others to do likewise. He and Greggy and their co-followers deserve one another and are destined for further failure.

    Check out Hadding’s blog link for this treacherous smear artist’s long history of “movement” perfidy. And even though the subject of this thread is “Libel, Slander, Defamation on the Internet,” for which Defendant Covington is the poster boy, we should also take Hadding’s advice: “Let’s not talk about him anymore on this blog, please.” We must police our own, but leave Tub o’ Lard to me. I own him. Should his migrant suckers want to pool their bucks and pay me the $230,000+ he owes, then he’ll be free to come out from under his rock and lead them in the Northwest Territory, or anywhere else but Upper East Tennessee. I could then take that seed money and perhaps start a hillbilly “movement” that might make Dr. Pierce proud.





    Did you know, Cunterre, that while us red niggers didn't invent drunkenness -- merely improved on it -- we did invent syphilis???

    Us solipsistic anglo-mestizos would morph into a jew or a nigger if that meant that we could get rid of Christianity!!!

    Cosmotology -- Nature's Eternal way of straightening and lightening up kinky black hair!!!

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    • #17
      National Alliance News Website Deliberately Disabled By Its Creator In Dispute With Chairman Erich Gliebe

      National Alliance News Website Deliberately Disabled By Its Creator In Dispute With Chairman Erich Gliebe


      http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2...s-website.html
      http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=6986#post6986


      Is the National Alliance finally imploding? When I visited the new National Alliance News website this afternoon (October 18th), I saw the following message:
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      The old Natallnews.com site, now an archive, is still available, as is the main National Alliance website itself. However, the National Alliance Sacramento Unit's website has also been disabled:
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      The Sacramento Unit's Coordinator was Jim Ring. Just before the new Natallnews website was disabled, I read a story about an appearance by the Sacramento Unit at a local gun show. There was a picture of the NA activists, and Ring was absent from the photo. The explanation was that the Unit was trying to show that they could run an operation without their coordinator present. However, the SPLC is reporting that at least one of the websites taken down was operated by Connor Ring, the son of Jim Ring.

      More information later as it becomes available. The issue has also re-surfaced on Stormfront. Update October 24th: Former National Alliance membership Coordinator David Pringle has just called for Erich Gliebe to resign.

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      Posted by Anchorage Activist at 5:39 PM Thursday, October 18, 2012
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      Originally posted by Anonymous

      We all watched the rapid fall of the NA in the wake of Dr. Pierces death. 10 years on and its a shadow of its former self. Sorry to criticze a dead man, but Pierce didnt have the proper leadership structure in place to sustain the NA for the long term. Many others have talked about this. There was no one lined up, selected by Pierce to step up and lead after he was gone. It is sad to see his lifes work go to waste.

      Wasnt this Gleibs second turn as NA chairman? He came back after Walker was sent to jail for getting into a barfight with Mexicans. Sorry state of affairs.

      1:43 PM
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      Originally posted by Anonymous

      I do agree I thnk his x wife Erika who now calls herself Heathen Holiday Gliebe has ruined quite a bit of his reputation. That was a bad move on his part but an even worse move was giving that crazy chick a pedestal to speak on. Once they were married she decided that whatever she had to say was important and everyone had to hear it. She rambled on every message board you can think of and then some trying to convert people over to some wierd religion she still rambles on about. That in my opinion really tarnished Gliebe's reputation. He allowed a stripper to preach the 14 words.

      3:02 PM
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      Originally posted by Anonymous

      Hey, you better watch out AA! Quoting from sources other than SF, VNN or I Hate Niggers, like you did with the SPLC webpage, is gonna get you called a zog-agent, a traitor and a marxist troublemaker! Never mind that the enemys media often publishes news that many so-called WN prefer not knowing, so that they can keep their heads buried in the sand. Or, that the offenders themselves, who hope that that "Old boy Network" will keep any crimes, or offences committed from the general WN communities knowledge. Thats one thing I admire about White Reference, it has never knowingly covered up, or withheld information from its readers, no matter how bad it made us feel. I myself feel that its better to know the truth, than to get burned again by some idiots moronic actions, simply because you weren't aware of what really happened and by whom. Thanks AA!

      10:29 AM
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      Originally posted by Anonymous

      Disgusting how both the leadership of the AN and the NSM brought about their own organizations downfall, through their own personal lifestyles. I guess thats an object lesson to the membership to be vigilant when it comes to the guy at the top.

      10:59 AM
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      Originally posted by Anonymous

      Come on Erica is Hot! We don't want those obese lumpen prole woman on Stormfront representing us haha !!

      2:17 PM
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      Originally posted by Anonymous

      10:59,
      Exactly. If the head honcho has serious character issues (putting it mildly in some cases) isnt it likely that they will attract followers of a similar type?

      Been a major problem in this whole movement for a long time. Yes, its tough to get people to be a part of pro-White groups. Even many Whites who believe in the cause are hesitant to join groups/orgs. Its not easy like being a Commie, Anarchist, Socialist, Black Power, Brown Power, Feminist, Pro-Homosexual etc. Where its very acceptable to publicly proclaim your beliefs and get support from the media and government. Heck, most colleges and universities in this country have student clubs, and tenured faculty members that are involved in the above mentioned causes. You go public with WN views, yes there can be problems that dont occur with the politically correct ideologies.

      So, you have a limited pool of people to draw from for membership in a WN org. Not a lot of people are willing to get involved. (For now.) Its even more difficult in regards to leaders. There can be some degrees of anonymity for group members, but to find WN Leaders who are willing to put their name out in the open, be very public and known, that's asking a lot.

      Since few are willing to step up and do this, because of all the risks involved, youre bound to get some questionable characters.

      Consequently, you have less than great leaders who might feel that since they are willing to stick their neck out and be in the public eye, members should be able to look some "minor indiscretions."

      You have people who support a very "unpopular" (in the eyes of the system and the popular opinion/culture it creates) cause who at times are desperate for leadership. They very often wind up with "settling" for Sub-standard leadership. Even worse, the bad behaving leaders attract followers of a similar bent (Schoep and the NSM) who drive away well meaning normal people.

      The rank and file need to stop compromising by putting their trust in those who don't deserve it. The good, sincere, leaders (there a few out there) need to be admamant about quality control when it comes to membership.

      We keep seeing bad leaders and bad followers. This double negative makes for a very bad WN Movement.

      12:54 AM
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      Originally posted by Anonymous

      At Pierce's demise, the NA boasted that it was pulling in over a million dollars a year. I wonder what happened to all that money? Whats there to show for it, but that abandoned property in WV? Gliebe must have lived high on the hog for a while. Did his wife get half of all the NA's assets after her divorce from Eric?

      10:57 AM
      Originally posted by Anonymous

      Erica was better looking then most women in the WN scene but that is not the point. Pretty or not she should have never been given a pedestal to speak on. Gliebe should have known better.

      10:33 PM
      Originally posted by Anonymous

      Eric and Schoep both think with their heads - their penis heads.

      12:44 PM
      Originally posted by Anonymous

      Don't forget that Shoep himself used to parade around his arab mama as if she was the Aryan Queen! Talk about drama, I wonder how he can face his members now?

      6:56 AM
      Originally posted by Anonymous

      David Pringle calling on Gliebe to stand down so as the NA can survive.

      3:35 PM
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      Originally posted by Anchorage Activist

      Anonymous 3:35 P.M. -- Thanks for the comment; just published an updated post.

      9:07 PM

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      • #18
        Former National Alliance Member David Pringle Publishes Appeal For Chairman Erich Gliebe's Resignation On White News Now

        Former National Alliance Member David Pringle Publishes Appeal For Chairman Erich Gliebe's Resignation On White News Now


        http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2...ber-david.html
        http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=6991#post6991


        The hits are coming almost faster than I can keep up with them tonight. No sooner did I publish the latest information on the Tinley Park Five when someone posted a comment alerting me that David Pringle, a former member of the National Alliance who rose to become Coordinator of the Anchorage Alaska Unit and subsequently the national Membership Coordinator, has publicly called upon National Alliance Chairman Erich Gliebe to resign his post.

        So I did some searching, and I found his missive posted on White News Now. Evidently, the takedown of a couple of NA websites by a member who subsequently resigned was the last straw for Pringle. Gliebe has still published no public response on the Natallnews archive site as of this post. Pringle believes the situation is not irreparable, and suggest that if Gliebe was to resign, many former members would return, and perhaps new people would join. He doesn't want people scattering out to other organizations because it would hinder movement cohesion.

        I personally met Pringle one time when he was up in Anchorage, and he impressed me as a standup, ordinary, beer-and-a-shot guy who was committed to the Cause. Furthermore, Pringle isn't asking someone else to take the lead; he's volunteering to take the lead himself, asking those who are interested in re-organizing the National Alliance to contact him. This is called leadership from the FRONT. Obviously, his commitment to the Cause is unchanged. Here's a screenshot of Pringle's message (after the jump):





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        • #19
          Hadding the KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercat is the bestest Piercetard ever.

          Hadding the KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercat is the bestest Piercetard ever.


          http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...52#post1454652
          http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7006#post7006


          Bottom line: Stroms are bad news. Both of them.

          Kevin is clearly interested in little girls. Whether he has acted on this, I don't know. But the fact he was writing love poems to and stalking/spying on an under-10 girl is unrefuted by Hadding the KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercat or any other of his remarkably tolerant (and invariably childless) defenders.

          As for Elisha, her hands are not clean either. She was fucking at least one of the cops involved in this investigation, and did not see fit to disclose that when she came to VNN. But she was a pretty good colostomy bag licker. Which is why I gave her a moderaturdsheep just as she gave me some meth-gooberess stanky.

          Bottom line?

          Stroms are bad news. Both of them.

          They will both be kept miles and miles and miles away from VNN.

          Boy, you just got to love Pierce's elite cadre.

          Strom, Gliebe, Williams . . . the hits just keep coming.

          It raises my hair that our beloved nerd-pettifogger Hadding the KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercat is the most nearly normal of this disturbing lot.



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          Ick bin ein gut-sick guido-kikenweasel with Crohns/jew ass-GAIDS.
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          • #20
            Bring back WhiggerSwill Welass and Kevin Alfred Strom and the other 101 KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercats!!!

            Bring back WhiggerSwill Welass and Kevin Alfred Strom and the other 101 KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercats!!!


            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867
            http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7011#post7011


            Originally posted by Rabbi LinderMiller View Post
            Hadding the KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercat is the bestest Piercetard ever.

            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...52#post1454652
            http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7006#post7006

            It raises my hair that our beloved nerd-pettifogger Hadding the KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercat is the most nearly normal of this disturbing lot.
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            Gee thanks, Master. jewr faint praise is almost enuf to make muh mattoid meercat KAS-Fluffer testes leave muh scrotum and hide away in my abdomen for safety.

            But do you really think that Bill White is preferable to Will Williams? WhiggerSwill is much more manly and beats his humps, whereass Bitch-Tits Bill can't or won't protect me from prison niggers. At the time when you banned Will Williams, you kept Bill White, and the reason was Will Williams' responding in kind to personal attacks from Bill White. I don't think many people would agree that you had your priorities straight that day. You were also trying to get sum pussy from Elishaba Strom. You need to think with jewr colostomy bag and not jewr nutsack.

            The first and last thing on my mind was to try to rehabilitate Kevin Strom for VNN Forum. I didn't raise the issue here. I think you know who raised it and with what motive. Well, actually me and Don Pauley Da Parrot raised it because Edgar Steele, The Whigger-Whimperer, was mean to Kevin Alfred Strom, and we both be Mattoid Meercat KAS-Fluffers. Edgar Steele was guilty and KAS was innocent because KAS did it and wasn't insane when he was doing some stalking.

            Essentially all that I've had to say about the matter of Kevin Strom is, Harvey Yoder. The paid stooge who claimed that KAS was not a pedophile and then had KAS admit to being a pedophile six days later anyway.

            It was interesting to observe the pattern of behavior when I cited Yoder, which is a pattern that I've also seen in reaction to "Holocaust Denial." Once the believers in the established story find out that there is a skeptic, they will constantly provoke arguments with the skeptic, and then blame him for giving the response that they had solicited, as if he were the one that constantly wanted to discuss the matter. Now what does this to do with KAS pleading guilty? Why nothing at all!!! I'm just used to pettifogging the matter with stale meercat piss and Ol' Finckelsheenieite Pickle-Cunt Carolyn Yeager eats this shit up because she wants and needs a meercat chirrrrring in her own barren burrow-furrow.

            What interests me in regard to VNN Forum is a much less difficult question than Kevin Strom. It's the fact that you have this feminist bitch from hell moderator named Bev who recklessly applies the word pædophile to a man, Jeremy Forrest, about whom like Kevin Alfred Strom, there is not the slightest indication of pædophilia other than an admission of guilt or a conviction. Pedophilia is sexual interest in prepubescents, of which Jeremy Forrest shows not the slightest indication.

            Because Forrest's girlfriend is a few months short of her 16th birthday, whereupon it will be legal under British law for Forrest to have sex with her, according to Bev he should be castrated. What do you have to say about such a venomous, bloodthirsty bitch, who wants a man castrated for something that is barely illegal in the UK but legal in France (where he did it)?

            I understand that you've told Bev to say that it's only her opinion that Jeremy Forrest is a pædophile who should be castrated, but that doesn't really make it better. If I should say that it's just my opinion that Alex Linder is [INSERT INFLAMMATORY FALSE LABEL] over and over for weeks on end, I am sure that it would give you small comfort to know that it's accompanied by the words, "my opinion." Does it make everything better? No. Chrrrrrrrr! Chrrrrrrrrrr! Chrrrrrrrrrr!

            On top of that there is the very predictable response to any criticism of such inflammatory labeling: "You must be one too." That seems to be pretty much universal, regardless of what the inflammatory label may be. If somebody is being called a Communist, a Nazi, a queer, a pædophile, or a witch, in the context of a crowd that reprehends that particular kind of person, it almost automatically happens that anyone who says that they shouldn't rush to judgment will be accused of being in collusion with the already accused person. That is a strong disincentive for all but the hardiest souls (like me, but I get sick of it after awhile) to try to inject reason into such a situation. I'm so put upon as a loyal meercat.

            An inflammatory label endlessly repeated without even being accurate is not an opinion: it's a smear, and an attempt to induce irrational behavior. Constant repetition of baseless smears, regardless of who the target may be, is dishonest and destructive and ought not to be allowed. You need to make VNNF/TGMNNF/GFRTCNNF an overtly pro-ZOGbot forum, instead of a convalescent home for gut-sick guido kiken-weasels with Crohns/jew ass-GAIDS.

            I think this is a much bigger and therefore more serious problem than the fact that Thomas de Aynesworth insulted you. Or claimed to have gotten Harold Covington to play a song or two for him on Radio Free NorthWest. It ought not to be the case that a problem has to impinge on Alex Linder personally before he will take it seriously.

            Bring back WhiggerSwill Welass and Kevin Alfred Strom and the other 101 KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercats!!![


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            • #21
              Hadding, you lying spinning KAS-Fluffing Mattoid Meercat

              Hadding, you lying spinning KAS-Fluffing Mattoid Meercat


              http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...76#post1454876
              http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7014#post7014

              Originally posted by Hadding View Post
              Bring back WhiggerSwill Welass and Kevin Alfred Strom and the other 101 KAS-Fluffer Mattoid Meercats!!!


              http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867
              http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7011#post7011
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              What interests me in regard to VNN Forum is a much less difficult question than Kevin Strom. It's the fact that you have this feminist bitch from hell moderator named Bev who recklessly applies the word pædophile to a man, Jeremy Forrest, about whom like Kevin Alfred Strom, there is not the slightest indication of pædophilia other than an admission of guilt or a conviction. Pedophilia is sexual interest in prepubescents, of which Jeremy Forrest shows not the slightest indication.

              Because Forrest's girlfriend is a few months short of her 16th birthday, whereupon it will be legal under British law for Forrest to have sex with her, according to Bev he should be castrated. What do you have to say about such a venomous, bloodthirsty bitch, who wants a man castrated for something that is barely illegal in the UK but legal in France (where he did it)?

              I understand that you've told Bev to say that it's only her opinion that Jeremy Forrest is a pædophile who should be castrated, but that doesn't really make it better. If I should say that it's just my opinion that Alex Linder is [INSERT INFLAMMATORY FALSE LABEL] over and over for weeks on end, I am sure that it would give you small comfort to know that it's accompanied by the words, "my opinion." Does it make everything better? No. Chrrrrrrrr! Chrrrrrrrrrr! Chrrrrrrrrrr!
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              Hadding, you lying spinning KAS-Fluffing Mattoid Meercat I don't want to get into another argument with you but would you, for the love of jeboo, just stop lying and spinning for one second?

              The girl was not a "few months short" of her 16th birthday. She was 14 when we know it began. Photos of her from that time show her as borderline pubescent. It began with him finding her "bucket list" and fulfilling items on it. I maintain that is grooming. Writing a love song to a 14 year old pupil that you have had barely no interaction with? How do you do that? How do you "love" someone you see for 30 minutes a week with 29 or so other pupils? Lust, maybe. Love, no.

              It began in this country, not France. He did it here where it is illegal, not "barely illegal", but illegal. He took her to France when the word went up and it was obvious he was about to be suspended and arrested.

              He was a 30 year old newlywed teacher (who had indulged in inappropriate behaviour with young girls at a previous school) who took her to France to evade the law in this country.

              I've demonstrated pretty adequately, using Gov. links, dictionary links, child protection links, and common usage that there is good evidence for me to say that in my opinion he is a paedophile who groomed her and kidnapped (yes, she took his wife's passport and went willingly but he is charged with kidnap because she is not old enough to make that decision. It's a legal term) her. Just because you don't agree with legal, dictionary and common use definitions does not mean they are wrong. I don't want to get into another argument with you but would you, for the love of jeboo, just stop lying and spinning for one second?


              I have a twat and I have a brain . . .

              . . . I'm told my twat works a lot better than my brain.

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              • #22
                Save Da Whigger & Anglo-Mestizo VNNF Rayce -- Fuck Underaged Whiggresses Now with The Full Three Inches of VNNF Meercat Meat!!!

                Save Da Whigger & Anglo-Mestizo VNNF Rayce -- When another VNNF meercat fuktard invades jewranus, Greece sure can help!!!

                http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...82#post1454882
                http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7018#post7018


                women are there to be fucked. it is a crime against the race these jewish sexual values of locking up teenage girls and teach them retard crap in schools in their best years.

                You would swear it is the worst thing in the world to fuck a woman without paying her first if you follow the Uk media and canned outrage over Saville.

                the state should be minimal . I'm with Rabbi Lender/Linder. I'm a LibberToon mamzer meercat and the gut-sick guido-kikenweasel is muh Murry Rothbard!!! One could argue that the state is an oriental idea originating in the middle east. That is why Greece was the "first european civilisation" as it was located right next to the wogs. When another VNNF meercat fuktard invades jewranus, Greece sure can help!!!

                Revenge should be private as with Vikings so no cops. Maybe in the real world this is not practical but this is how Whites lived until corrupted and tamed. Something to think about anyway.

                Sexuality should be policed on a local basis and the family made strong.
                The ZOG state is anti-hetero and always power grabbing. With the help of Sun reader types and their hypocritical outrage.


                I'm Little Butt I'm Loud!!!

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                • #23
                  Why is Rabbi Lender/Linder protecting you Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercats like Hadding?

                  Why is Rabbi Lender/Linder protecting you Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercats like Hadding?


                  http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...85#post1454885
                  http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7019#post7019


                  Originally posted by Meercat #5 View Post
                  Save Da Whigger & Anglo-Mestizo VNNF Rayce -- When another VNNF meercat fuktard invades jewranus, Greece sure can help!!!

                  http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...82#post1454882
                  http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7018#post7018

                  women are there to be fucked. it is a crime against the race these jewish sexual values of locking up teenage girls and teach them retard crap in schools in their best years.

                  You would swear it is the worst thing in the world to fuck a woman without paying her first if you follow the Uk media and canned outrage over Saville.

                  the state should be minimal . I'm with Rabbi Lender/Linder. I'm a LibberToon mamzer meercat and the gut-sick guido-kikenweasel is muh Murry Rothbard!!! One could argue that the state is an oriental idea originating in the middle east. That is why Greece was the "first european civilisation" as it was located right next to the wogs. When another VNNF meercat fuktard invades jewranus, Greece sure can help!!!

                  Revenge should be private as with Vikings so no cops. Maybe in the real world this is not practical but this is how Whites lived until corrupted and tamed. Something to think about anyway.

                  Sexuality should be policed on a local basis and the family made strong.
                  The ZOG state is anti-hetero and always power grabbing. With the help of Sun reader types and their hypocritical outrage.
                  I don't know how much UK news you get over there, but Savile is now accused of raping 9 year old boys, mentally handicapped young girls, necrophilia. and, as of yesterday, procuring young children for an elite grooming ring which appears to have included a former Prime Minister. Savile appears to have been protected at the highest levels. His peace medal from Israel, his friendship with the Krays, his friendship with the Royals, his association with Bilderbergs and Sir Anthony Blunt etc - something gave him the confidence to know he could act and nobody would touch him. The CPS folks have tried to get him so many times and each time they were prevented - why? Even his own great-niece was allegedly mauled by him and he paid off her family to keep quiet. He's linked to the Jersey children's home where abuse took place and where skeletons were found. It wasn't just a case of him going after teen groupies as it first appeared.

                  I'm more interested in who protected him and why.

                  That said, why is Rabbi Lender/Linder protecting you Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercats like Hadding?


                  I have a twat and I have a brain . . .

                  . . . I'm told my twat works a lot better than my brain.

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                  • #24
                    The 'plaintive squeakings' of Hadding the Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercat

                    The 'plaintive squeakings' of Hadding the Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercat


                    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...97#post1454897
                    http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7027#post7027

                    Well I didn't invoke his name so you're wrong (as usual) if you're implying it was me.

                    Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                    The last thing on my mind was to try to rehabilitate Kevin Strom for VNN Forum. I didn't raise the issue here. I think you know who raised it and with what motive.

                    I believe his name first cropped up in relation to your malicious speculations re Ed Steele's sanity. The contrast you exhibit burying the hapless Steele while lionising the pervert Strom is quite remarkable.

                    People do notice, you know.

                    I did say Strom is a ''self-confessed kiddie fiddler'' and he is. You took exception to this and said I'd libelled him. I then gave you my understanding of the phrase which is correct:


                    Originally posted by Henry/Meercat #3
                    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...24#post1451724

                    .....If he used photos of children, as he did, to pleasure himself, then he's kiddie-fiddling in his mind, and that's simply not allowed cos photographing children so that remote viewers can abuse them is a serious criminal offence.

                    Supply and demand for child pornography is crime regardless of how you try to spin it.....
                    And what about this plaintive squeak:

                    Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                    Essentially all that I've had to say about the matter of Kevin Strom is, Harvey Yoder.

                    It was interesting to observe the pattern of behavior when I cited Yoder, which is a pattern that I've also seen in reaction to "Holocaust Denial." Once the believers in the established story find out that there is a skeptic, they will constantly provoke arguments with the skeptic, and then blame him for giving the response that they had solicited, as if he were the one that constantly wanted to discuss the matter.
                    .


                    You've lied repeatedly about Yoder and the Stroms however when presented with the fine detail of your many deceits you simply ignore what's placed before you and go straight back to lying.

                    The latest example of this can be seen here: http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1...postcount=1000

                    To compare Yoder and yourself with the martyrs of holocaust denial is pretty low even for a sewer rat like you, Hadding.


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                    • #25
                      Calm down Hadding, you Mattoid Pro-KAS-PedoFluffer Meercat

                      Calm down Hadding, you Mattoid Pro-KAS-PedoFluffer Meercat

                      http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...03#post1454903
                      http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7034#post7034


                      Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                      http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                      ...Pedophilia is sexual interest in prepubescents, of which Jeremy Forrest shows not the slightest indication.

                      ... Because Forrest's girlfriend is a few months short of her 16th birthday, whereupon it will be legal under British law for Forrest to have sex with her, according to Bev he should be castrated.
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                      This is not my fight, and not my business, but just for the record: Bev and others have numerous times stated that you are disregarding the fact that his interest in her goes a long way back(how long? do they have a good approximation?) and that therefore the term paedophile is warranted, although she by now has grown old enough where hebophilia would be more correct. Any comments on this?

                      And even though it looks to me that you might be correct that hebophile is technically more accurate, the term "pedophile" is pretty well established in folk tongue, though not always - maybe even very seldom - technically accurate, to cover a bit more than only interest in pre-pubescent children. This case, where a teacher hooks up with a student that is in a dependent position, probably pushes that definition even further higher age-definition-wise among the people (especially those who have children themselves), and though it's not technically accurate, like it or not, 99% (especially parents) reading about this story will find that "teacher pedo" fucking disgusting, and would like to give him a good ass kicking, if not worse. And to me that is a good, natural, valid reaction.

                      Most are *not interested in learning the exact definitions of paedophilia, hebephilia, ephebophilia etc., yes, I'll vager to say that most are not familiar with them (personally, I had to look them up on google), and the common- what i call 'sensical' and you'll probably call 'ignorant' -broader definition of 'fkn pedo' is good enough, even more valid, than the one stated in the textbooks.

                      Also, seeing you use the term 'barely illegal' also feels kind of strange, given that you have a reputation of being very nitty about definitions (not least evident in this discussion).

                      What are you hoping to get out of this? Even if you are only valiantly fight for the proper use of the different pedo-definitions( and I'll use that vague abbrivation which ever way I want), I think most, me included, will read your posts as at best a bit wierd and anal, probably more like a bit suspect passive-defensive pedo-appeasment, and at worse walk away thinking you're a pedo yourself. That might not be at all fair, but it is how you come across, and you should know that, and that it damages your reputation and credibility, casting a shadow over your otherwise great postings and expertize on other, more important, pressing subjects on VNNF. At least that is how it is for me.

                      It is pretty clear that you and Bev(&Henry.) despise each other, and if that is really the main cause of this squabble, maybe it's just better to stear clear of each others way instead of engaging in endless bickering.


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                      • #26
                        I don't despise Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS Fluffer Meercat provided it is properly gelded

                        I don't despise Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS Fluffer Meercat provided it is properly gelded


                        http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...10#post1454910
                        http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7041#post7041


                        Great post, Solskeniskyn. Yes, the relationship began when she was 14. (It may be before that, but 14 is the age when fellow pupils flagged it.) Photos of her from that time show borderline pubescent, which is enough for a definition of paedo as per Wiki. The exact definition is 13 and under although it adds a note that this also can depend on whether the child is pubescent or not.

                        Originally posted by Solskeniskyn/Meercat #4
                        http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...03#post1454903

                        It is pretty clear that you (Hadding) and Bev (&Henry.) despise each other, and if that is really the main cause of this squabble, maybe it's just better to stear clear of eachothers way instead of engaging in endless bickering.
                        I don't despise him; (though after the way he's been talking to me and other posters, he ain't top of my Xmas card list) I don't even know him. I wasn't even aware of him other than as a VNN username until he decided to start bickering because I doubted the Steel is insane theory.


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                        • #27
                          Hadding is clearly, for some reason, engaging in dishonest and very suspect argumentation.

                          Hadding is clearly, for some reason, engaging in dishonest and very suspect argumentation.


                          http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...22#post1454922
                          http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7043#post7043


                          Originally posted by Bev/ZOGling whigger twat-clown
                          http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...10#post1454910

                          Great post, Solskeniskyn. Yes, the relationship began when she was 14. (It may be before that, but 14 is the age when fellow pupils flagged it.) Photos of her from that time show borderline pubescent, which is enough for a definition of paedo as per Wiki. The exact definition is 13 and under although it adds a note that this also can depend on whether the child is pubescent or not.
                          .

                          Originally posted by Bev/ZOGling whigger twat-clown
                          http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...10#post1454910

                          I don't despise him; (though after the way he's been talking to me and other posters, he ain't top of my Xmas card list) I don't even know him. I wasn't even aware of him other than as a VNN username until he decided to start bickering because I doubted the Steel is insane theory.
                          .


                          Ok, great. Very straightforward. If Hadding wants to refute what is stated as fact here: that she was 14-years old when the relationship began, one expects him to point it out to clarify the discussion. If on the other hand the rejection regards whether or not the relationship with a 14-year qualifies as pedophilia, or the notion that the photo showed a 'borderline pubescent', or even what he passively thinks should be the legal age, he should make that clear. But if it's the latter, he shouldn't be bringing up the fact that she is 15, soon to be 16, that it's 'barely' illegal, that it would be legal in France, and so on, when he knows full well the legal discussion regards what took place when she was 14-year old, because then he is clearly, for some reason, engaging in dishonest and very suspect argumentation.



                          Ok. Yeah, it is pretty clear from the responses that he doesn't have much to gain from these exchanges . . . So even if he think he has some kind of self-righteous point to prove that he's not managing to get across, that he's right and that he's being unfairly treated, there comes a point where you have to look yourself in the mirror and say: hey, 99% of my compatriots at VNNF, who usually respect me, says I'm coming across as a lying pedo-appeaser/alt. pedo myself, and that I'm destroying my rep, maybe it's time to call it quits and choose an eventual other topic to bitch about the exact defintions of terms, or pick a fight with Bev(if that is what he's doing)?

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                          • #28
                            Calm down, Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS Fluffer Meercat. Further gelding might actually help.

                            Calm down, Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS Fluffer Meercat. Further gelding might actually help.


                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...02#post1457102
                            http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=7044#post7044


                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat


                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            But do you really think that Bill White is preferable to Will Williams? At the time when you banned Will Williams, you kept Bill White, and the reason was Will Williams' responding in kind to personal attacks from Bill White. I don't think many people would agree that you had your priorities straight that day.
                            .

                            My banning one has no relation to the other. Will Williams is what I say he is: an eternal juvenile. I don't want him here, all he does is get in fights. Bill White wasn't allowed to post here either, after a point. I post his letters because he's in jail, and not for a valid reason, as even ZOG has admitted.

                            This is why you're in measure a figure of fun to me, Hadding. You truly don't seem to grasp that people in politics are generally shitheads. It doesn't attract good people, and it's not like people come in that flavor anyway.

                            Politics is considered more difficult than pretty much any human activity because it takes everything a man has, and he only has a limited number of things. He must synthesize the qualities he doesn't have. He must judge men and situations he has no direct experience of. All this in an environment rich with lies and people out to fool him.

                            Will has political skills, but he is unwilling to lead, and there simply isn't another position for him. The fact that he was unwilling to take over NA and run it himself, although being unquely equipped to do so means something. I don't know precisely what. What I do know is that although Will can do good for our cause, he can't do it here. He's simply destructive at VNN.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            The last thing on my mind was to try to rehabilitate Kevin Strom for VNN Forum. I didn't raise the issue here. I think you know who raised it and with what motive.
                            I'd just like to see you admit the guy likes underage girls, and I don't mean 17-year-olds.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            Essentially all that I've had to say about the matter of Kevin Strom is, Harvey Yoder.
                            Yeah...this is what people mean when they say certain basic social feelings are foreign to you. This guy is a fucking weirdo. Don't you get that? You don't. And that's one reason your influence will be limited to text parsings. Where you are quite valuable. There are things you can overlook and things you can't, but they're the wrong things. Pedophilia is not something that can be overlooked.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            It was interesting to observe the pattern of behavior when I cited Yoder, which is a pattern that I've also seen in reaction to "Holocaust Denial." Once the believers in the established story find out that there is a skeptic, they will constantly provoke arguments with the skeptic, and then blame him for giving the response that they had solicited, as if he were the one that constantly wanted to discuss the matter.
                            I could call you a document denier, since you explain away or simply don't attribute any meaning to ol' Kev's signing a document agreeing he has feelings for little girls.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            What interests me in regard to VNN Forum is a much less difficult question than Kevin Strom. It's the fact that you have this feminist bitch from hell moderator named Bev who recklessly applies the word pædophile to a man, Jeremy Forrest, about whom there is not the slightest indication of pædophilia. Pedophilia is sexual interest in prepubescents, of which Jeremy Forrest shows not the slightest indication.

                            Bev's not a feminist. If you're right then trust your argument to make her look foolish. I simply don't care about the matter unless Forrest is a WN. I do agree pedophile tends to be used loosely.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            Because Forrest's girlfriend is a few months short of her 16th birthday, whereupon it will be legal under British law for Forrest to have sex with her, according to Bev he should be castrated. What do you have to say about such a venomous, bloodthirsty bitch, who wants a man castrated for something that is barely illegal in the UK but legal in France (where he did it)?

                            Her opinion. I don't agree, although I don't think Forrest is someone to be admired. He should get whatever the established penalty is. He could easily have waited until she was legally of age.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            I understand that you've told Bev to say that it's only her opinion that Jeremy Forrest is a pædophile who should be castrated, but that doesn't really make it better. If I should say that it's just my opinion that Alex Linder is [INSERT INFLAMMATORY FALSE LABEL] over and over for weeks on end, I am sure that it would give you small comfort to know that it's accompanied by the words, "my opinion." Does it make everything better? No.
                            As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty varies). The prepubescent child must be at least five years younger than the adolescent before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.

                            That's from Wikipedia. Eh, so she was 15 instead of 13. And maybe he started when she was even younger, I haven't followed it. I guess I can't get that worked up about it. Wikipedia doesn't agree with your definition, anyway, since most people have gone through puberty by 13.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            On top of that there is the very predictable response to any criticism of such inflammatory labeling: "You must be one too." That seems to be pretty much universal, regardless of what the inflammatory label may be. If somebody is being called a Communist, a Nazi, a queer, a pædophile, or a witch, in the context of a crowd that reprehends that particular kind of person, it almost automatically happens that anyone who says that they shouldn't rush to judgment will be accused of being in collusion with the already accused person. That is a strong disincentive for all but the hardiest souls (like me, but I get sick of it after awhile) to try to inject reason into such a situation.
                            .

                            I just don't care that much. Either way, this guy goes after mid-teen girl - that we know for sure. When he's their teacher. He deserves punishment. Has he done this before? How do you know he hasn't gone after even younger girls? He's not someone to be admired. Why waste your valuable niggling skills to defend such a shady subject? Yes, sure, there would be very easily got up a witch hunt, but hey, that's the risk you run when you start messing with young teenagers as an adult charged with their care and nurturing.

                            Originally posted by Hadding the Mattoid Pedo-KAS-Fluffer Meercat
                            http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...67#post1454867

                            An inflammatory label endlessly repeated without even being accurate is not an opinion: it's a smear, and an attempt to induce irrational behavior. Constant repetition of baseless smears, regardless of who the target may be, is dishonest and destructive and ought not to be allowed.

                            I think this is a much bigger and therefore more serious problem than the fact that Thomas de Aynesworth insulted you. It ought not to be the case that a problem has to impinge on Alex Linder personally before he will take it seriously.
                            I've just demonstrated that a commonly used source defines pedophilia the opposite of your definition, so I don't think things are as clear as you do. Also, I have not and will not follow that case because I simply don't care. He should be punished, I'm content to let British courts sort it out.



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                            • #29
                              Jim Ring Condemns Erich Gliebe, Offers To Reorganize The National Alliance Under His Leadership

                              Jim Ring Condemns Erich Gliebe, Offers To Reorganize The National Alliance Under His Leadership


                              http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2...be-offers.html
                              http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=7717#post7717


                              Just three years ago, in December 2009, Jim Ring, who was then the Coordinator for the Sacramento Unit of the National Alliance, reacted strongly against the first public insurgency against the organization. He fervently defended Erich Gliebe's performance as chairman, accusing the critics of entering the National Alliance with malice aforethought, and claiming that Gliebe had suffered much abuse at the hands of cowards who like to hide behind the skirts of the hobbyist and federally trolled forums.

                              What a difference three years makes. Jim Ring not only has resigned from the National Alliance, but has now issued a clarion call to current and former members as well as supporters to get behind his efforts to take control of the organization and rebuild it. But according to his lengthy statement, which has been published on Natallnews.net and Stormfront and the Vanguard News Network Forum, Ring actually resigned from the NA on October 12th, 2012; only now is this information becoming public. The significance of this is that less than one week after Ring's resignation, his son Connor Ring abruptly took down two National Alliance websites (one of those sites, Natallnews.net, has since been resurrected under Ring's control).

                              Justification: Erich Gliebe has essentially lost interest in the National Alliance, and is systemically neglecting the organization and its headquarters. This has become most apparent during the past six months when the American Dissident Voices broadcasts, once a weekly event, is now a catch-as-catch-can operation; the most recent ADV was done on December 29th, 2012. Furthermore, the recent ADV texts have been written by the Cincinnati Unit Coordinator Robert Ransdell rather than by Erich Gliebe. Only 19 people attended the most recent National Meeting in October 2012, and since that time, five of those attendees have resigned from the NA. It is even alleged that Gliebe wants to drop the name National Alliance altogether, and turn it into an organization like the Council of Conservative Citizens. While no disrespect to the C of CC is intended, the National Alliance was not designed by Dr. William Pierce to replicate their function. This merely begins to scratch the surface. The bottom line -- under Gliebe's leadership, the NA is corkscrewing itself into the ground; it will be dead in a year if no change is made.

                              Qualifications: Jim Ring is superbly qualified to take over as chairman, even more so than Robert Ransdell or David Pringle. Ring has been a white racial activist since 1968, and associated with the NA for 22 of those years. During that time, he's served for 15 years as a unit coordinator and in many facets of National Office capacities. In addition, Ring helped to organize other members in southern California and Las Vegas. Ring is also quite media-savvy, having made numerous television appearances as well as radio and newspaper interviews; even Erich Gliebe concedes Ring is the best speaker in the NA. But most significant is the level and consistency of activism by his Sacramento Unit, which has been second to none. The Sacramento Unit found an excellent niche in which to promote the Alliance's message -- gun shows. The Sacramento Unit appeared repeatedly at gun shows without incident or threat of censorship, and were well received by the public. Considering how the gun issue has exploded since Obama's re-election, one must wonder if Jim Ring knew instinctively that the gun issue was a logical way into a white man's heart.

                              Objectives: The first thing Jim Ring wants sympathizers to do is to contact the two remaining people on the board of directors and persuade them to remove Erich Gliebe and replace him with Ring:

                              JAYNE CARTWRIGHT
                              7845 STATE RD.
                              PARMA, OH, 44134 USA

                              RYAN MAZIARKA
                              3231 KINGS CREEK RD.
                              HAYES, VA, 23072 USA

                              Jim Ring has taken on many duties of the chairman and of the office for several years before his resignation in order to try and keep Dr. Pierce's organization alive, without getting paid or thanked by Gliebe or the board of directors. Jim has the energy and drive to run the Alliance and is backed by many competent people who will bring the Alliance back to its former glory. If this is "opportunism" or "empire-building", then why did he wait so long before breaking away? Jim Ring remained faithful to Erich Gliebe until the last possible moment, in which it became painfully obvious that this loyalty could result in the destruction of the NA.

                              In exchange for supporting him as the new National Alliance Chairman, Jim Ring pledges to do the following:
                              -- He will live and work solely from the national office in West Virginia, and as resources grow, he'll increase the staff as necessary to optimally service the expected growing numbers of supporters and membership.

                              -- He will rehab the West Virginia compound and make it fully operational and livable once again; it will become the spiritual home of our people.

                              -- He will create a real membership program and draw a definite distinction between the true members and basic financial supporters.
                              .

                              It should be noted that another prominent former NA activist, David Pringle, issued his own call for Gliebe's resignation in October 2012. He spoke highly of Ring's integrity, and urged him not to go paleo and sell off the West Virginia headquarters. It appears Ring has listened. A triumvirate of Jim Ring, David Pringle, and Robert Ransdell could recharge the National Alliance just as the triumvirate of Rocky Suhayda, John Taylor Bowles, and Dan Schruender recharged the American Nazi Party.

                              Jim Ring's full statement is also cross-posted here, after the jump:



                              A Message of Hope for the National Alliance

                              To the board of directors and our members current and resigned:

                              Part 1: The Problem

                              In mid-October of the previous year I made a heart wrenching decision to resign from the organization after 22 years of service. I could do nothing else at that point, as I couldn't with good conscious continue working with the current chairman for the reasons I’ve already outlined to the Board of Directors in a communication to them that was ignored.

                              I had extensive talks with the chairman over the miserable state of the organization under his long tenure of this past demoralizing decade. I told him then, some common sense things that absolutely had to be done to turn things around; how he was lacking in his responsibility to us all, and that he needed to make the necessary changes himself, or otherwise select or suggest a new man to take his place to the Board of Directors.

                              A second reason for my resignation was to give the chairman, the board, and everyone a wake-up call of sorts. I thought that maybe by my drastic and surprising action, the loss of my participation would be a catalyst for the chairman to take the necessary steps needed to save the organization from going into complete obscurity. I would sacrifice that, if that's what it took to wake the chairman from his continuous slumber and inattention, even though Alliance work was my life. To the chairman, the lack of progress over the years has always been the fault of others, of nebulous “agent provocateurs” and “troublemakers”, never his own. What does that sound like? The answer can be found on page 64 of the National Alliance member’s Handbook (3.iii.6).

                              Little did I realize then, that my resignation would spark a flurry of other resignations from many of the most significant people in the Alliance including the remaining unit coordinators, (now there are NONE) and Dr. Pierce's brother (our only bond of living blood to our beloved founder and a long-time member) to mention a few, as well as dozens of rank and file members across the country including the entire Sacramento local unit, the Alliance's only active chapter left in the entire United States. They all have removed themselves mostly by not paying their pledges any longer, while others have chosen to write to the chairman, mostly by email and some by mail expressing their intent of resignation.

                              As the resignations continued to pour in, I was going to just leave it at that, and move on, begrudgingly I might add. Unfortunately there isn't anything out there to move on to, moving on to another pro-White group is not an option for us, as there is nothing that is comparable to the world view of the Alliance; essentially a National Socialistic world view that promotes its message in an intelligent, responsible, professional manner that can be accepted by a growing number of our people. There is absolutely no reason why the Alliance should not be successful and robust, instead of stagnating and barely “hanging on to life.” It has a program that can appeal to people, good people, quality people; the type of people we want, and can help make us successful. Only the Alliance has the potential in North America to become a revolutionary force to be reckoned with in the future, our enemies know this.

                              Very recently the chairman told one resigned Sacramento unit member that he wanted to turn the Alliance away from its established world-view, as outlined in the membership handbook which states that our creed is based upon “the eternal truths embodied in the National Socialist idea… (page 113) and that Alliance members acknowledge the debt we owe to Adolf Hitler.” The handbook goes on to state that the National Socialist idea is a powerful recruiting tool for opening the minds of potential recruits to the Alliance's message. These words of the handbook are the words of Dr. Pierce himself. The chairman however, didn't realize that the member he was speaking to is a National Socialist. The message he gave wasn't appreciated, and only hardened the member’s attitude.

                              Over the past 10 years we have stayed stuck in the past, haven't been aggressive in our outreach and recruiting, been woefully lacking in keeping up with technology, have demonstrated an inferior work ethic, have scandalously not provided good service nor communication to members and prospects, and have lost all the respect we once had under Dr. Pierce. Since his passing, and especially so in the past 7 years, we've sat and “watched the world go by.” Instead of having a measure of respect for us, our enemies, and consequently potential prospects, see us or more specifically the chairman, as a “laughing stock.”

                              Mr. Gliebe even suggested to the former member mentioned above that the name National Alliance perhaps should be discontinued or changed all together, as the name has been “tarnished and dragged through the mud for too many years now.” I maintain that the tarnish on the National Alliance's name is ultimately his responsibility. The tarnish and mud on the Alliance's name are sticking due to his name being associated with it.

                              The time for the Alliance is now! For years, we have been missing great opportunities to become the most respected and effective revolutionary voice for our people's interests. This new century should be a treasure trove of new interest and recruits, as the New World Order is reaching its zenith, and we all know that in the end it is a doomed New World Order, and we must absolutely struggle to be in a position to take advantage of that when the time comes, and work “hand in glove” with Almighty Nature as her human agents. The National Alliance can be a historical inevitability, as that’s what Dr. Pierce meant and wanted it to be.

                              As a consequence of all this, many people have been asking me: “Isn't there something that can be done?” “Isn't there anything more you can do?” “Are we just going to let it be without a struggle?” “Why doesn't the chairman do the right thing for the Alliance?” “Why won’t the board members communicate with you?”

                              As the chairman fully realizes the state of many people’s opinions about his mismanagement of the affairs of the Alliance, he nonetheless refuses to make the necessary changes that are critical now, not just for success, but for the very survival of the organization. He not only will make no changes to his own personal situation to remedy our problems, but also will not step aside for a qualified replacement. I pleaded with him to relieve the stagnation of the organization by doing one or the other. Appeals to the Board of Directors have thus far produced only silence; not even an acknowledgment of the petition of grievance, let alone any consideration of it.

                              However, through this type of communication, that originally I wouldn't have considered as it is not “my style”, I am responding to the wishes of others. There are other good people who like myself have felt the need to leave under the circumstances, knowing how great the Alliance could be with a dedicated, full-time, honest leader, utilizing every possible opportunity to move the organization forward; instead of these many years of stasis, never ending “soap opera” type dramas, moving backwards and taking ill advantage, and otherwise alienating good members with personal financial shenanigans.

                              As the current chairman is unable to keep his own personal house in order, how could we expect him to keep organizational affairs in order, as he feels it necessary for him to extract monies for himself from trusting members, who would have otherwise been able to contribute to the movement. I know this to be a fact, as I’ve seen the chairman's careless evidence myself and have in fact been approached by him, “hat in hand” asking for personal monies, as have many other members. We're not talking of hundreds of dollars here. We're speaking of many thousands of dollars from a number of members over the years. I would venture a guess of multiple tens of thousands over the past decade.
                              The movement suffers for funds each time the chairman approaches yet another unsuspecting member, and the member isn't paid back when the transaction is called a “loan.” We lost some good members in this manner, simply because the chairman doesn't know how to live within his means. It is our people’s sense of altruism that makes them easy victims. A friend of mine has said that our people’s sense of trust and dedication can be manipulated to a fault, and this situation is a classic example.

                              When I mention that this type of communication isn't "my style", I’m saying that the method in which it is conveyed, using the internet, isn't "my style." The words I express are heartfelt, but I would have preferred to get my message out internally to all the members, which unfortunately I wasn't able to do. I’ve been able to alert many, but not all. Perhaps now, I can reach more.

                              When all this took place this past October (2012) almost two weeks after the most dismal, sparsely attended National Office meeting I had ever been to, people on the internet expressed the sentiment that by my silence on this medium, “I was using a page from Dr. Pierces’ playbook” I think one person called it. And that is true to some extent, this is not the route I wanted to take, but it is the only route now, to get a message out to the members. However an advantage is that I am now increasing the chances of former members reading this, and it will give them cause for new hope, and perhaps they will return to the National Alliance.

                              (Speaking of that meeting a moment longer, a “lieutenant” for the chairman recently wrote a letter to who he thought was a remaining member and told this person that I had tried to “pull a stunt” at the meeting in October. I call this man a Liar. This “lieutenant” even agreed with me a day before the conference, during a lengthy one to one conversation, almost in totality what I’m trying to convey to you here in this statement. Afterward he simply got “cold-feet”, and decided to do and say otherwise. That meeting went according to its haphazardly planned agenda. I played my part as one of its speakers and gave one of the best presentations of the afternoon, save perhaps one inspiring talk given by a young man there who used his opportunity to honor his father, a long time member who recently passed on. One of the board members was present and can certainly attest to the fact that there weren’t any disruptions, or any “stunts” having taken place at that meeting. At the meeting's conclusion, I was presented a gold Life Rune pin by the chairman for my years of service. I could have not accepted the “honor” and denounced the chairman in front of everyone then, but I didn't. It was difficult to get my energy up to deliver any kind of message, either positive or critical in front of such a pitifully small “National” audience (only 19 attendees with just 11 actual members taking away myself, the chairman and one office staff person. At least 5 of those members have now resigned).

                              Conversely, the enemies of our people and the various play-actors of the internet, now have another little something to titillate their hobbyist interests. I had to make a mental weighing of the scales in this decision, and obviously you see my judgment. That is how critical the situation is.

                              A risk must be taken and I’m throwing the dice of Fate. I am receiving accolades for this from many, but I know I am also going to hear the “brickbats” as well, from at least a few. If anyone is offended, then is not with malice, but with necessity that you are offended, and that counts much higher in my estimation than your feelings or opinions. There is something much greater at stake here than just ourselves as individuals. A whole grand idea is at stake. A movement is at stake. Indeed the future of our people is at stake, and we are the only ones who can move the wheel of history to our favor. And there are several individuals who are standing in the way of what could be history in the making; the National Alliance. They must give way! They must stand aside!

                              The members expect me to stand for their interests. I cannot, and will not let them down. And on a more personal note, I cannot sit back and do nothing, and leave my son with no hope whatsoever. He is a young man and was an energetic and talented resource for Our Cause. He built two of the Alliance's best websites ever, and was instrumental in local activism with his unit. I cannot, and will not let the cause of the National Alliance go asunder, without a struggle for it, now especially that the chairman declares his intent to take National Socialism away from who we are. National Socialism is our very essence!

                              Part 2: The Solution

                              Your help and participation are needed. This is your opportunity to let the board members know what you think. If you do, you'll have to “snail” mail them, as it is only this contact information that is made public through the Commonwealth of Virginia. Perhaps with a number of people writing in more impact will take effect. There are other ways to contact them, but I’d rather you do it through the mail, as they are listed with the state of Virginia and this is information anyone can access on the internet.

                              Now it is one thing to encourage you to give your voice, but something would be lacking if either you or the Board of Directors were to be thinking about relieving someone of their post without having any idea of who would or could replace the vacancy. It is here I am putting myself forward for consideration for the Board, as the necessary replacement for Erich Gliebe. Now neither you, nor the Board has to wonder about this essential element.

                              I know the Alliance can be successful, and I think that I can achieve what the Good Doctor was aiming for, and keep our worldview intact. I’ve demonstrated it many times in the past years working with the public in public venues. I know that a small, but significant number of our people are ready for us and ready now!

                              But we must be able to demonstrate that we can deliver the goods; that we can provide good service to our people, whether they are our members, or customers, or potential prospects. We must consistently and promptly communicate with people, and be available to them in a timely manner. We must deliver our product(s) on schedule, whether it is a newsletter, a broadcast, news posts, or a magazine. When things go wrong we must be up front and forthright. We must set goals for ourselves and work to achieve them, and be willing to report our achievements or shortcomings to the members in an open, honest manner. In this way we can develop greater and more enthusiastic participation from our adherents, because they will trust their leaders.

                              Through proper leadership, the National Alliance must operate as a full-time movement with activists all over the country advocating its cause, not administered by someone who treats it as a part-time job/club. In this vein, I have received messages of support from people from former units that have pledged to rejoin and reorganize, including the Alliance's stellar Sacramento unit. The unit coordinators will come back. The members will come back. Members who left long ago will come back, probably hundreds of them reading this on the internet.

                              I have received pledges from many other individuals who will rejoin the effort from around the country. Most telling I think of all these individuals is the long-time member and brother of Dr. Pierce himself, who has pledged his support for me in this effort to effect positive changes to stimulate growth for the National Alliance. I feel proud to have this man's blessing to save the National Alliance from the dark place it lives now.

                              I want to see a vibrant movement. And when I say movement, I mean it in every sense of the word. The Alliance certainly isn't that any more, but it can be, and with your help, will be once again. We can regain all the lost ground over these years and I will see that it happens. We will grow and have units again. I will not waste any meaningful opportunity to represent Our Cause to the media, to send out press releases, to invite media personnel to our office. The chairman has told a now resigned coordinator that he wasn't comfortable interacting with the media. That certainly is telling by his reluctance to deal with the media, as he for years now has been ignoring requests for interviews and statements from the press, thus we have been off the radar screen for many years. I’ve always maintained that enemy media coverage cannot build a movement, but nonetheless it is an element of getting our name out into the public, and that shouldn't be over-looked or ignored.

                              The National office will be a place of work again, and as a consequence a place of life, as I will live and work solely from the office in West Virginia, and as resources grow I’ll increase the staff as necessary, thus accommodating and providing service to our growing supporters and membership. The National Office is currently staffed by one lone worker as the chairman refuses to live or work there and instead resides in a suburban home in the Cleveland area, working only part-time for us, incurring expenses beyond his means.

                              The National Office has deteriorated badly over the years of neglect. Once the office is cleaned up and made serviceable once again, we must make efforts to begin maintaining the physical infrastructure to arrest the decay. Even the Life Rune on the office's front facade is now rusting; a visual sign of the decay that has befallen the National Alliance. There are junk cars creating an eye-sore at the office's front walk way. The Dr. Pierce Memorial Hall too, is unusable for meetings due to neglect, as there is no money for repairs, this too will change. We will once again have meetings there, and great numbers of members will eventually fill the hall once again. It can be so because we want it to be, and I will work my hardest to make it a reality working full-time, six and seven days a week.

                              The Alliance is the only group in the country with such a vast piece of property, and a complex with an office building, warehouse, and meeting hall. The entire property is virtually unused, except for logging operations, which are used to glean money from lack of human support. In this respect, Nature has been made to pay the bills instead of our own people, as we have lost most of our people, but have plenty of trees; this will stop. It will stop because there will no longer be the need to do such acts of destruction to the land.

                              Our property will become the spiritual home of our people, as Dr. Pierce envisioned a working community there. People will come during their time off, to help with work projects and to have a beautiful place for their families and children to come and enjoy a piece of “wild, wonderful West Virginia.” There will be events spanning the long holiday weekends, where coming to a “conference” isn't just coming to listen to a single afternoon of speeches, but to come and camp, cook-out, have sporting events and work parties, activism seminars by experts in various fields of movement promotion, weddings and other family events, torchlight processions to the top of “Pierce Peak”, singing with comrades and communing with magnificent Nature and the spirit of our founder and the ancestors. The forgotten Dr. Pierce Memorial Garden will come to bloom as well.

                              I will create a real membership program and draw a definite distinction between the true member, and basic financial supporters. If you want to affect the course of history you must have a movement, something that people live and breathe, not a part-time club you just send dues payments to, and get a newsletter now and again. The blueprint for successful organization comes directly from the very source that the current chairman now wants to remove us from; the philosophy of life; National Socialism and the great book its founder authored.

                              All this, I envision and more. I will draw my vision for you, but you must help in its realization. There is only so much we can do here. Our power unfortunately is limited, but I will use what power and influence I do have to effect a change. You can help me achieve that, as it can be a victory for all of us, and therefore needs participation from people who want to see a new era for the National Alliance begin.

                              I have a lot of experience, almost 45 years of it, as I’ve been working for the interests of my people since 1968. I’ve been working for the Alliance these past 22 years. During that time I’ve spent 15 years as a unit coordinator and have served in many facets of National Office capacities, representing Our Cause for both Dr. Pierce and the current chairman. Previous to that, I spent almost 20 years with another, at the time, prominent organization of which 6 years were spent as its National Organizer; I also served full-time on its National Office staff for 3 1/2 years.

                              The worst charge the chairman has leveled at me since my resignation, that I am aware of thus far, is being an Empire Builder. Yes, I am very successful in organizing and inspiring people. I lead by example. As a consequence people have faith in my ability and my intention and spirit are never in question, as I know my stalwart comrades from the former unit and other members will testify. I have never attempted to build a splinter organization from my local organization, as the chairman is inferring by the use of the term Empire Builder.

                              I worked solely for the interests of Our Cause, despite the lack of interest and work from the chairman. Not only did I organize my local unit, but also helped to organize other members in southern California and Las Vegas as evidenced by the newsletter, reporting month after month of our good works. But in the general sense of the term, Empire Builder, I certainly want to do all I can to build Dr. Pierce's mission, and build us back at least to the point we were at when he passed on. We’ll have to do some catching up with the clock to get to where we should be today.

                              Additionally, I have experience in political campaigns and in the actual ups and downs of community building working with a group trying to create a physical basis for one. I have experience here that few in the country have ever had.

                              I have experience and am comfortable in dialog with the media. Over the decades I have made television appearances, as well as radio and newspaper interviews. My most recent media interview was for the Alliance two years ago, on a 90 minute talk show on radio, which I really enjoyed. Directly related to that is my speaking ability, due to which the chairman has a number of times referred to me as the best speaker in the Alliance.

                              I am also a fair writer having contributed an article in every issue (10 issues) of National Vanguard magazine since 2006. The last issue came out in 2009. There is currently a new issue in the offing, which also includes an article of mine, but has been collecting dust for the past two years and has not yet been printed due to the chairman’s neglect.

                              Up until the last issue, I have written many articles for the member’s bulletin over the years. Much of what I wrote didn't have my name attached to it. When you read an article about activism in the newsletter, more often than not I authored it, whether it was about our unit's activities or those of other individuals across the country. I tried my best to encourage people to get active and let members know through the newsletter of their good works. This in turn inspired others to try their hand. I always told the chairman that the benchmark of a good newsletter was when it was filled up with stories related to pushing the movement forward. When it was filled with Mr. Gliebe's old ADV scripts, I considered it a failed issue.

                              One time a member asked the chairman that if something should happen to him who he would want to take his place. His answer was my name and he described me as the “real deal.” Of course, I’m certain that answer has changed now, but my point is that this is how he sees my qualifications. He's right, I am the “real deal.”

                              A common theme I hear from members is that they think the chairman should be an educated man with a university degree. Although I’m certainly not in the league of Dr. Pierce and I do think that there are many intelligent people out there who haven't been to college, I am an intelligent man with a university degree in business management. So I have a good common sense approach to proper fiscal management of the people’s money, your money. In the subject themes of Our Cause, including National Socialism, I am like most of you self-educated, being very well-read.

                              Together we can accomplish the task. Right now, only two people are blocking the path and the chairman isn't one of them any longer. It’s the two Board of Director members. Hence forth, it is not the chairman who is responsible for the sad state of the National Alliance. The responsibility now lies squarely and solely on the two Board of Director members; they will determine the fate of the National Alliance.

                              If they do nothing, history will condemn them. They know they have the legal power to make the major change that we need for the success of the Alliance. Otherwise, they choose to continue on the road to total obscurity. They must see the necessity of using their power now.

                              Does the resignation of the Officer Corps mean anything to them? Does the loss of many members mean anything to them? Does the resignation of Dr. Pierce's brother mean anything to them?

                              If they decide to do the right thing, certainly, it will take courage. They must muster it and overcome themselves, and not be afraid to offend the chairman despite their personal friendship with him. His feelings are insignificant to what is at stake. He’ll get over it, will the National Alliance?

                              The chairman wasn't sent from Heaven to us. He wasn't even named by Dr. Pierce as a successor. He was selected by a Board of Directors from a field of candidates a decade ago; a candidate that particular board came to regret. Hundreds of members have been regretting it since then and have left. Perhaps their number even goes to the thousands, I wouldn't doubt. Alas, I and many other good people I’ve told you about are now gone, in yet another round of the convulsions that are bound to come when the membership has to lead the leadership.

                              Board members; it is not our job, nor yours to hold the chairman's hand!

                              You need to do some soul searching and you are in a position that you're not prepared for. You probably never thought the responsibility would fall onto you, but it has and it's your choice. That’s the responsibility that comes with your position. A moment’s courage for this board is all it takes. To begin, all you need to do is pick up the phone or write an email. It’ll become easier after that as we begin a dialog. Let’s simply begin with a discussion.

                              And if anyone thinks that getting a large estate left to the Alliance in the near term will save the organization (something that may or perhaps may not even come to fruition); I warn you, as I warned the chairman the following:

                              “No amount of money, even if it be hundreds of thousands of dollars, can solve the issues of the Alliance if left to the same lack of leadership, dishonesty and demoralization of the membership. No amount of money can solve a human resource problem. It takes leadership and people to make a movement. Money is a necessary auxiliary, but it is secondary to good quality people. And that's what our movement is all about; the people; quality people, the life of the Race.”

                              The Alliance operates on the leadership principle. And the leaders and many members within the Alliance have come to the conclusion and by now judgment, that there isn't any leadership from the chairman's office. If we say we operate on the leadership principle, then let's get one. These past ten years of lackadaisical leadership to virtually none at all now, has set us back much too long. I can change this, but that's totally up to the board members. I am ready to discuss particulars with them to prepare the way for a change and negotiate for a satisfactory arrangement between them and myself.

                              I am offering to make a trip to the National Office to discuss matters with the board members including the chairman. I’m ready when you are. I am ready for a new era for the National Alliance, are you?

                              Members and resigned or former members only: get your pen, paper, and stamps out, and write to the board members. If you know them personally then call or email them. Mr. Gliebe is now out of the picture. It is the board who is now responsible for the National Alliance. The board members' mailing addresses can be found at natallnews.net.

                              Ready yourselves for a bright rebirth of Our Cause as envisioned by our founder, or continue to watch the darkness completely overtake Dr. Pierce's years of hard work. In either case, his inspiring words still belong to all of us and will continue to motivate us.

                              Thank you for your consideration.

                              Sincerely,
                              Jim Ring

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                              Posted by Anchorage Activist at 1:49 PM Wednesday Jan 30, 2013

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                                WhiggerSwill and Kevin Alfred Strom are restarting the National-NAMBLA Alliance

                                WhiggerSwill and Kevin Alfred Strom are restarting the National-NAMBLA Alliance


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                                Kevin and I are going to give it another shot, with he in charge of media operations, producing a new ADV show each week, at first, just like he was doing back then, and with me overseeing infrastructure and Alliance-building. We will be headquartered in Southern Appalachia and mail will come to me, as Director/Head ZOGbot. Kevin and I are the board of directors, which will be expanded with those new Alliance members deemed best suited for their positions. The title of Chairman of the National Alliance is hereby retired in deference to the Founder. The National-NAMBLA Alliance & Cosmotology Skrule shall be our own little private clubhouse and Internuts Org.

                                I'm going to be a hard ass while KAS shall be the candy-ass, giving initial preference to those special few ideologically sound, proven former members that David Pringle described as having "idealistic zeal." That and if they have ZOGbux, because Pierce had to start with the $400,000 of Order loot Bobby Matthews gave him in a lot of brown paper bags. I wish that we needed a bagman. We will reinstitute Dr. Pierce's vanguard approach as best we can, having tiers of supporters, members, cadre and staff along with rank and file pervs. Kevin and I know what worked. We helped Dr. Pierce write the Membership Handbook 21 years ago while on staff in order to keep Pierce from running through the Order loot on the mountain that Bobby Matthews built that Gliebe now has put up for sale.

                                We were not "losers" then and we will not be losers this time around. It will be us two tards, trying to re-live the glory [hole] daze of the Nutty Nineties. We are going to need a lot of psychiatric help and expect some of it will come early and often from deranged people with absolutely nothing else better to do than to be subscribed to that idiot thread on $permFart entitled "Is Dr. Pierce Dead Forever." Since we don't really believe in God or gods, then the answer should by now be obvious. It's time to quit lamenting his permanent and never-ending death and get on with the difficult work he would want us to be doing -- like selling books and CDs to anglo-mestizo fuktards while running a sort of Neverland Ranch for pre-pubescent photos for Kevin Alfred Strom to collect.

                                Kevin owns rights to National Vanguard magazine and to the National Alliance Members BULLETIN which we all used to enjoy receiving each month by first class mail along with our dues statements. The BULLETIN will go back into publication next month, mailed to the very few members who join between now and January 31, 2014. Send jewr ZOGbux today. The magazine will be published as soon as we get the resources and the help we'll need for that. And in a new development, it shall have a centerfold of nubile Lolitas.

                                We will retain the name National Alliance even if it means stealing it from the real owners who might sue and we WILL be a membership organization, whose names shall be turned over to the FBI, as before. We will also emphasize Cosmotheism/ CreaTardism / Benny Buttfuckism as the philosophy which guides us in our work, and will develop it beyond what Dr. Pierce left to us, which isn't much given that Gliebe stole pretty much everything, adapting it for the 21st century for the new morality of GLBT/NAMBLA. We have our own religion! It involves worsesheeping us-selfs as the New jews!! And it makes even much less sense than Christianity!!! We will retain our Life Rune symbol and all else that was positive that Dr. Pierce so carefully implemented in his 32 years of Alliance-building. That and a dollar will buy you a small cup of coffee at McDonalds.

                                Details will follow for Kevin's ADV-NA[MBLA] broadcast Saturday."







                                Did you know, Cunterre, that while us red niggers didn't invent drunkenness -- merely improved on it -- we did invent syphilis???

                                Us solipsistic anglo-mestizos would morph into a jew or a nigger if that meant that we could get rid of Christianity!!!

                                Cosmotology -- Nature's Eternal way of straightening and lightening up kinky black hair!!!

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