The New Movement Turd

[PastorLindstedt]

The Movement Turd


Feb 28, 2012
The Word as Heard on the Turd

TMT -- Episode #111 -- All Heck Breaks Loose -- 28Feb12
Time: Feb 28, 2012 9:15 PM EST/8:15 PM CST

http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=5335#post5335

TMT -- Episode #111 -- All Heck Breaks Loose -- 28Feb12

Episode Notes:

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Well, neither pisser-possums, Eliars, or finckelsheenies can be invited to The Secret Turd because of mamzer & jew persecution by Talksjew. However, since they seem to have found the no-longer Secret Talksjew bat-cave and like kikeling-ferengi have invaded here is the new link for as long as it lasts.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...=111132&cmd=tc

Start Time (EDT): 02/28/12 9:15 PM EDT/8:15 PM CST
Duration (minutes): 120+

Download link:
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Chat Transcript:


Hail Victory!!!

Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
http://whitenationalist.org/useful/audio/TMT/
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/

[PastorLindstedt]

The Movement Turd


Feb 28, 2012
The Word as Heard on the Turd

TMT -- Episode #111.5 -- Whigger Identifuckation Guide -- 1Mar12
Time: March 1, 2012 9:15 PM EST/8:15 PM CST

http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=5350#post5350
http://previousdissent.com/forums/sh...3494#post23494

TMT -- Episode #111.5 -- Whigger Identifuckation Guide -- 1Mar12

Episode Notes:

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http://mamzers.org/useful/WhiggerID-b.jpg

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Actually, 'Sir Polo' is altogether too kind to whiggers, as a State of ZOGling Whiggerdumb was around long before the Gen-X slackers first showed up in the 80s, with the backward baseball caps and other ostensibly 'white nigger' behavior. In fact, according to Comparetian Orthodox Dual-Seedline Christian Identity there have been whiggers since Adam dipped his wick in Satan-pussy, i.e. Lilith Satans-daughter. The war between the Two Seedlines, one the Sons of [True] Men and the other the Spawn of Satan, has been waged for the past seven thousand years since Satan seduced Eve and she gave birth to the First jewboy, Cain. But the causes for the War started when the First ArchAngel, Lucifer, was given notice that YHWH wanted to create these mortal beings, made a little lower than the immortal spirit beings, the angels, but with the capacity to become the Sons of YHWH. Thus the stage was set for this war between YHWH's Children and the spawn of Satan jews, who also enlist the aid of the Sixth Day Beasts of the Field and the mixed-race mongrel mamzer abominations to finish off the Aryan White men.

So what to make of jewboys like Eli James/jewseph Kutz-November, the psychotic murderous jewrsey Shitty jewboy pig Rabbi MildSwill Finckelsheenie, the wannabe serial polygamist mamzer-kike with Crohns/jew ass-GAIDS Dan Johns? Or known proven mamzers like Bryan Wright, Jeromy Visser, Anglo-Mestizo Truitt, and the incomparably vicious Bryan Reo/SwordBrethren? And even when the baal-priest is whigger, like Morris Gulett, it is a drunken crackhead turned ZOG agent provocateur. Anyone who has anything to do with such jew, mamzer and whigger ZOGbot vermin is serving Satan, not YHWH and certainly not YHWH's Servant Nation of Christian Israel.

Of course the Remnant has always had this problem in that Adam, Noah's son Ham, and Esau were whiggers whose non-seeing, non-smelling one-eyed johnson was none too picky as to what stanky meat hole they pushed it into. The end result was jews and mamzers who from coonception were at Genesis 3:15 war with the Remnant while the whiggers were always like zombies, desperately wanting to die and to take us sole remaining Servants of YHWH with them.

So what to do? What to do? When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout?

No. Let's understand that there is nothing new under the sun, as Solomon disconsolately said when all of his wisdumb had drained away in squirts in strange pussy. Back in Noah's Daze, YHWH extended His mighty Middle Finger and flushed the Genesis Chapter Six Adamic Tarim Basin toilet and finished away ZOG/Babylon the First, and left the rest of the world as it was. YHWH confounded the tongues of whiggers who were joining up to race-mixing under Nimrod's and Semiramis' ZOG/Babylon the Second so that History could cuntinue. And so there is nothing left to do about ZOG/Babylon the Third and Final other than to let Nature and YHWH take itz course and for the Great Tribulation to do all the heavy lifting in finishing off 90% of several hundred million pure-blooded whiggers and all of the six-billion plus mongrels/mamzers and several millions jews or two.

Now I know that intellecshul whiggers want an ethnostate or two, but with the exception of Harold Covington they have a much stronger wishbone than backbone. They sorta know where they want to go -- mighty Evil Empire Lite -- but can't get there from here.

Which is why the bowel Movement is a failure and will always be a failure. The secret isn't in building something which is simply going to be subverted, if not already a ZOG false front, but rather decentralization in which local warlords scratch and claw for survival, akin to what happened when Rome declined and fell. The few, the proud, the Ten-Thousand Warlords ruling under a theocratic military dictatorship over ten million ex-whiggers. That's how the Great Tribulation will wind up.

So tune in, turn on, and listen up to tonight's Movement Turd and find out how the cow ate the cabbage and what is going on in the bowel Movement.

After-Show Report: Call-in Guests Russell Walker, The Real William B, and Andy Donner of the NorthWest Front.

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Well, neither pisser-possums, Eliars, or finckelsheenies can be invited to The Movement Turd because of mamzer & jew persecution by Talksjew. However, since they seem to have found the no-longer Secret Talksjew bat-cave and like kikeling-ferengi have invaded here is the new link for as long as it lasts.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...=111132&cmd=tc

Start Time (EDT): 03/01/12 9:15 PM EDT/8:15 PM CST
Duration (minutes): 120+

Download link:
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http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/ Archive Directory

Temporary Download Link
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-111132/TS-599069.mp3 Talkshoe, 32kps edited
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/111-5_1Mar12.mp3 16kps on Mamzers.org

Chat Transcript:


Hail Victory!!!

Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
http://whitenationalist.org/useful/audio/TMT/
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/

[PastorLindstedt]

The Movement Turd


March 4, 2012
The Word as Heard on the Turd

TMT -- Episode #112 -- NSM = Nutzi Stupid Mamzers -- 4March12
Time: March 4, 2012 9:15 PM EST/8:15 PM CST

http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=5370#post5370

TMT -- Episode #112 -- NSM = Nutzi Stupid Mamzers -- 4March12

Episode Notes:

There is much pissing and moaning that the lies of 'Kommandork' Jeff Schoep came undone when the second wife -- now admittedly an A-rab mamzer with a nigger stepdaughter from previous mudsharking -- picked up a spiral notebook with the names of 1500 or so largely anglo-mestizo mamzers playing 'white supremacist' after the Kommandork found another skank to park the Fuerher-pecker inside.

Now even Anchorage Activist puts the name of these accomplishments in ironic quotes when he says that the Kommandork Schoep got 'outed' by the One Niggers' Project. Why even bother to put this matter in quotes, when the facts of this matter of having a mamzer second wife with a step-niglet were known for over four years and then lied and denied?

Let's understand something. What is going to affect the National Socialist Movement (NSM) isn't having niggers and antifas 'outing' what was already known. What will affect the NSM is whether the majority mamzer and non-white followers pretending to be Aryan will continue to play Aryan even though it is as obvious as the nigger-lips, jewnibrowed slant-eyes, and shit-skinned hide on Bryan Reo/SwordBrethren's Facebook and Xuqa.com, Baby, Xuqa.com picture profiles. What will affect the suspension of disbelief is whether other jews, mamzers, and whiggers want to keep the pretense going. Take it from me, being outed as a mamzer like Bryan Wright and Jeromy Visser didn't make them quit pretending to be Christian Identity pastors, but rather the probability of criminal sentence for criminal behavior. And if you are a ZOG false-front marrano papist-preterist jew like Eliar James/jewseph Kutz-November or MildSwill Finckelsheenie, then all the more reason to pretend to be Aryan until either the funding or the parole board decrees finish up.

And the mamzers and jewboys playing Christian Identity or jewniformed nutzi or whatever real-life game? What will they do? Will they seek out another Ober-shiess-kopfen-feeben-fatten-fartin-fuerher? Or rather try to live with the pretender they have now rather than have to find another liar and criminal who will enable them to live with their own inherent and grown imperfections?

Running around as as nutzi in jewniform or pretending to be an actual Christian Israelite when you have been dipped in the tarbrush and have a ladystick and a jewnibrow and are obviously anything but White really solves nothing any more than any found-out deception.

But tards will try.

After Action Report: Guests were Russ Walker, LoganHunter, Andy Donner and The Real William B.


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Well, neither pisser-possums, Eliars, or finckelsheenies can be invited to The Secret Turd because of mamzer & jew persecution by Talksjew. However, since they seem to have found the no-longer Secret Talksjew bat-cave and like kikeling-ferengi have invaded here is the new link for as long as it lasts.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...=111132&cmd=tc

Start Time (EDT): 03/04/12 9:15 PM EDT/8:15 PM CST
Duration (minutes): 3 hours, 21 minutes

Download link:
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http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/ Archive Directory

Temporary Download Link
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-111132/TS-600220.mp3 Talkshoe Recording 32kps Re-Engineered
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/112_4Mar12.mp3 Mamzers.org 16kps Download

Chat Transcript:


Hail Victory!!!

Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
http://whitenationalist.org/useful/audio/TMT/
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/

[PastorLindstedt]

The Movement Turd


March 8, 2012
The Word as Heard on the Turd

TMT -- Episode #112.5 -- ZOGbot Blowback: The De-Centralization of 'Domestic Tewwowism' -- 8 Mar 12
Time: March 8, 2012 9:15 PM EST/8:15 PM CST

http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=5390#post5390

TMT -- Episode #112.5 -- ZOGbot Blowback: The De-Centralization of 'Domestic Tewwowism' -- 8 Mar 12

Episode Notes:

Ever since the In-hoguration of the Half-reekwan Amurrikwan Obongo following the near financial melt-down of Dumbya's last year of 2008, pretty much everyone in the bowel Movement and beyond to the Survivalists and Concerned Whiggers, seeing the Social Stalingrad, have prepared, however feebly for the on-cummin' Great Collapse. Couple that with the fact that Bowel Movement Ober-shiessen-kopfen-feeben-fatten-fartin-fuktard-fuerhers in both Whigger Nutsionalism and especially 'Christian Identity' have been exposed as ZOGbots or as jews and mamzers, the end result is that for reasons of survival and good sense and ZOG show-trials and ZOG oppression of overt ZOG false fronts, the end result has been exactly what The Movement Turd recommends for all: The Decentralization of the [practically non-existent] Bowel Movement into small groups or cells of less than a dozen or so individuals with un-infiltrated bonds of family relations or long-term friendship. Thus the 'Ten Thousand Warlords' Program is taking place altogether without any guidance or glue except for racially religious doctrine. Which is exactly what has been advocated by this Resistance Renegade Intellectual in my three part Ten Thousand Warlord program:

1. Get right with YHWH that you be deemed the Elect/Remnant worthy of survival.

2. Work in tandem with only your family and friends that you wish to take along with you in order to watch your back.

3. Know who your local regime criminals and sympathizers are so that when there is a total breakdown of civilization that they can be blamed and subsequently exterminated with their assets confiscated under your local Warlord acting as a military dictator under the racial religion of Dual-Seedline Christian Identity once the-m-asses are destroyed.

So The Movement Turd in locating and outing the ZOG-zombies within the Bowel Movement offers even more tactical tips than watching re-runs of The Walking Dead.

Now of course ZOG and ZOGling whigger and mamzer and jew [d]ruling ass-clowns know fool well that theyz' shit is weak and that theyz shit (and blood) is about to hit the fan. Which is why the Southern Professional Liars Center is running around in circles, along with the FiBbIes and the rest of the Awfulbet Soup Gangs are running around like in the daze of the Stazi and KGB trying to hold Humpty ZOG together again. Their recent ass-clownery is in the shape of running in circles, screaming and shouting and giving free publicity in the form of a 'militia scare' for the Spring of 2012. Oh well.

Now these catalog listings are for groups which have no intention of causing anything other than survival for theysselfs, along with the standard attention whores, most of which are up to theys' asses in ZOGbot assets. Which is as it should be given that every single jew sees a 'nazi' in even the most faggy of whiggers, same as a nigger sees a Klansman. jews, niggers, mamzers, gooks -- all see a White Master in even the stupidest and most perverted whigger simply because these lesser races have genetically learned to fear, as well as hate, the White Man. When these lesser races learn through whiggerdumb to stop fearing, they still are a-hatin'. Which is why I have no regard for whiggers reaping the fruits of disabling non-whigger fear while exascerbating non-whigger HAET. There's something about a caught and eaten whigger when LeRoy Tyrone Williams-Jenkins and Muhdikkk X catch up with a nice fat whigger claiming that it too, 'shares the dream' after being pursued through a wheat field or the Jersey Meadowlands in 'Escape From jew Yawk.'

Yes, the fruited & nutted ZOGplain is full of 'militias' of armed, ready and vengeful ex-whigger ZOGlings, even though such have gotten over the delusion of being 'COoNstipational Militias.'

Aftermath: Russ Walker and LoganHunter called in as guests. Discussed was reloading ammunition and current events.

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Well, neither pisser-possums, Eliars, or finckelsheenies can be invited to The Secret Turd because of mamzer & jew persecution by Talksjew. However, since they seem to have found the no-longer Secret Talksjew bat-cave and like kikeling-ferengi have invaded here is the new link for as long as it lasts.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...=111132&cmd=tc

Start Time (EDT): 03/08/12 9:15 PM EDT/8:15 PM CST
Duration (minutes): 3 hours, 27 minutes.

Download link:
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Temporary Download Link

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-111132/TS-602150.mp3 Re-Engineered, 32kps on Talksjew
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/112-5_8Mar12.mp3 16kps on Mamzers.org

Chat Transcript:


Hail Victory!!!

Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
http://whitenationalist.org/useful/audio/TMT/
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/

[WilliamB]

Wanted to call in. Sick children and me. Could not. Maybe next time.

[PastorLindstedt]

The Movement Turd


March 11, 2012
The Word as Heard on the Turd

TMT -- Episode #113 -- When Lies Fall Apart -- 11Mar12
Time: March 11, 2012 9:15 PM EST/8:15 PM CST

http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=5405#post5405

TMT -- Episode #113 -- When Lies Fall Apart -- 11Mar12

Episode Notes:

All across the ZOGland and in the Bowel Movement the lies that they, the ZOGling them tell whiggeroid fools are falling apart. Obongo admits that he is part of a coonspiracy with the Republicunt Establishment to finish off Ron Paul and Santorum in order to coronate Mittens Palooka Romney to take a dive against the Half-Reekoon AmurriKwan in the next general [S]Election for Head ZOGling. All the gliberal whiggers are all pissed off because Flush Rimblow, painkiller addict and Viagra smuggler, called some gliberal mamzeress a 'slut' because she wants whigger taxpayers to pay her to screw other carpet munchers. And the Republicunts are blaming the First Nigger for jew speculators on Wall Street raising gasoline prices on the declining middle cl-ass because these tards call for a war on Iran to benefit the jews. Now a crazed ZOGling jewp has killed a bakers dozen or two of ragheads in Afghanistan and the pretense is that none of this can be changed.

In the bowel Movement we have jews like Eli James and Bill Finck and Dan Johns, along with theys' 'Wandering Mamzers of WikiPedia-Talksjew CI' pretending to be actual Christian Identity while bleeding out the ass from Crohns/jew ass-GAIDS and not hiding very well the fact that they be kikes. Jeff Schoep is caught with a mamzeress with a step-niglet after having denied all of this being true for over four years and now 1500 names released to the One Nigger's Project and the $PLC, most of them being delusional anglo-mestizos anyway. The Southern Professional Liars Center releases a claim that 'haet groups' are expanding across the ZOGland and that it is the fault of these whiggers and anglo-mestizos that they are pissed at seeing whiggers going the way, first economically, then legally, and soon actually as did the South African Boers, whiggers who voted to give in to majority [d]rule by niggers.

So all the lies are being exposed for lies. What to do? Well unlike most in the bowel Movement, the Movement Turd says that every solution lies in the Great Tribulation, and that the way to prepare for such is to prepare for such -- in secret and alone -- as a way to save your own life. And if you have leadership skills and sufficient ruthlessness, then you can be one of the Few, The Proud, The Ruthless, The Ten Thousand Warlords.

After-Action Report: Guests, LoganHunter, Russ Walker. A NimBuster Kurdish jew mamzer named Joe Blow/jewseph Blaumamzer is supposedly the spammer who used a java-script program as "Guest90" to get into and to spam the Chatroom.

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Well, neither pisser-possums, Eliars, or finckelsheenies can be invited to The Secret Turd because of mamzer & jew persecution by Talksjew. However, since they seem to have found the no-longer Secret Talksjew bat-cave and like kikeling-ferengi have invaded here is the new link for as long as it lasts.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...=111132&cmd=tc

Start Time (EDT): 03/11/12 9:15 PM EDT/8:15 PM CST
Duration (minutes): 3 hrs, 36 mins

Download link:
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http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/ Archive Directory

Temporary Download Link

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-111132/TS-602959.mp3 32kps on Talksjew
htp://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/113_11Mar12.mp3 16kps on Mamzers.org

Chat Transcript:


Hail Victory!!!

Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
http://whitenationalist.org/useful/audio/TMT/
http://mamzers.org/useful/audio/TMT/

[Russ Walker]

Spamming on Talkshoe


http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5407#post5407

From: Russell Walker
to support@talkshoe.com
date Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:12 AM
subject Spamming on Talkshoe

There is a continuing problem with Spamming on Talkshoe. Even though people have been muted in the chat room they are still somehow able to send typically identical messages or a series of letters and numbers which have no meaning except to disrupt the chat room and prevent others from imputing comments. Review the latest Da Dik-Dik show for example, on 11-12 March.

Talkshoe needs to implement anti-spamming software such that no one is able to send any two messages within say 5 seconds of each other. Or any repeated identical message will not be allowed. Tonight some clown was able to imput a series of letters something like, t,y nk, pu, ty etc. without meaning , yet each of these messages took up a line of space and prevented others for expressing any cogent thought.

If you wish to call me Russell Walker 910-xxx-xxxx

[WilliamB]

Originally Posted by Russ Walker

Spamming on Talkshoe


http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5407#post5407

From: Russell Walker
to support@talkshoe.com
date Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:12 AM
subject Spamming on Talkshoe

There is a continuing problem with Spamming on Talkshoe. Even though people have been muted in the chat room they are still somehow able to send typically identical messages or a series of letters and numbers which have no meaning except to disrupt the chat room and prevent others from imputing comments. Review the latest Da Dik-Dik show for example, on 11-12 March.

Talkshoe needs to implement anti-spamming software such that no one is able to send any two messages within say 5 seconds of each other. Or any repeated identical message will not be allowed. Tonight some clown was able to imput a series of letters something like, t,y nk, pu, ty etc. without meaning , yet each of these messages took up a line of space and prevented others for expressing any cogent thought.

If you wish to call me Russell Walker 910-xxx-xxxx

Not only that, but known FBI sockpuppets like "papacat" come on. Nobody with half a brain is going to call in when that guy is on the chat.


http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5412#post5412

[Russ Walker]

Russifer cumplains to Talksjew


http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=5431#post5431

False, last night when guests were blocked, they continued to span many
times. The host admitted that there was nothing he could do to stop it. If
an automatic limit of say 5 seconds were placed on all comments to the chat
room it would stop this problem. russ




From: davec [mailto:davec@talkshoe.com]
Sent: Monday, 12 March, 2012 8:34 AM
To: Russell Walker
Subject: Re: Spamming on Talkshoe

Hi,

As Host you can Block Text Chat for All or individually.

Being 'muted' will prevent them joining in on audio it will not stop them
from posting text.

Blocking text chat is done using the other icon next to a Callers name (not
the phone icon but one that looks like a little computer sccreen)

I hope that helps.

Thank you for your continued use and support of the TalkShoe service.

Dave C
Talkshoe Support

Originally Posted by Russ Walker

Spamming on Talkshoe
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...=5407#post5407


From: Russell Walker
to support@talkshoe.com
date Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:12 AM
subject Spamming on Talkshoe

There is a continuing problem with Spamming on Talkshoe. Even though people have been muted in the chat room they are still somehow able to send typically identical messages or a series of letters and numbers which have no meaning except to disrupt the chat room and prevent others from imputing comments. Review the latest Da Dik-Dik show for example, on 11-12 March.

Talkshoe needs to implement anti-spamming software such that no one is able to send any two messages within say 5 seconds of each other. Or any repeated identical message will not be allowed. Tonight some clown was able to imput a series of letters something like, t,y nk, pu, ty etc. without meaning , yet each of these messages took up a line of space and prevented others for expressing any cogent thought.

If you wish to call me Russell Walker 910-xxx-xxxx

[Russ Walker]

Russifer Cumplaint to Talksjew, Part Deux


http://www.whitenationalist.org/foru...=5433#post5433

This unknown person was the same guest number. Go to DA -dik-dik program
name and take a look in case you have these chats saved. He just was able
to put up a string of nonsense such as ,a, ab, ade, ref, wer, tyg etc. One
after the other in a continuum. One new addition say every 1/2 second.

Again if there were a time restraint for all people wishing to come to the
chat room, say 5-10 second minimum between input, this kind of problem would stop.

russ

From: davec [mailto:davec@talkshoe.com]
Sent: Monday, 12 March, 2012 12:41 PM
To: Russell Walker
Subject: Re: Spamming on Talkshoe

Hi

You wrote:-

Even though people have been muted in the chat room they are still somehow
able to send typically identical messages

So my reply explained that 'muting' doesn't stop people text posting - only
from talking

Could yo provide more information or ask the Host of the Call Series to do
so.

ie. was this person or persons coming in under different screen names each
time or coming in as a different guest?

Thank you for your continued use and support of the TalkShoe service.

Dave C
Talkshoe Support

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Martin -- It seems that Talkshoe is trying to be helpful and end this
problem. Why dont you e-mail this person with the information and screw the
nimbuster who thinks he can make a fool out of all of us. Russ